Do I need a BOV for an ATX???
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Do I need a BOV for an ATX???
Hey guys,
Before i spend the 100 or so bucks to get a BOV, i was wondering if i really need one with an ATX. I rememeber hearing/reading something that said i won't.
Now, I do have the Reverse Manual Valve body so i can manually shift it, and so i'm wondering if in that case i might need one.
Thanks ONCE again!
Before i spend the 100 or so bucks to get a BOV, i was wondering if i really need one with an ATX. I rememeber hearing/reading something that said i won't.
Now, I do have the Reverse Manual Valve body so i can manually shift it, and so i'm wondering if in that case i might need one.
Thanks ONCE again!
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with an automatic you dont lift off the gas in between shifts. ..so if you think of it like that you dont need one ..
but you still eventually have to lift off the throttle, and when you do, you'll get a ton of compressor surge and could possibly end up messing your turbo up without a blow off valve
but you still eventually have to lift off the throttle, and when you do, you'll get a ton of compressor surge and could possibly end up messing your turbo up without a blow off valve

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Wisdom from the ancients! Thank you! 
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Louie wrote:with an automatic you dont lift off the gas in between shifts. ..so if you think of it like that you dont need one ..
but you still eventually have to lift off the throttle, and when you do, you'll get a ton of compressor surge and could possibly end up messing your turbo up without a blow off valve
Josh

So basicly, on low boost, you probably could get away without having one. But you could get away without having a seat belt, too. 
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Re: Do I need a BOV for an ATX???
yesLCPLPunk wrote:Hey guys,
Before i spend the 100 or so bucks to get a BOV, i was wondering if i really need one with an ATX. I rememeber hearing/reading something that said i won't.
Now, I do have the Reverse Manual Valve body so i can manually shift it, and so i'm wondering if in that case i might need one.
Thanks ONCE again!
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oh really...rice_eater wrote:but you cant getaway with using 3 tiresnodestiny wrote:So basicly, on low boost, you probably could get away without having one. But you could get away without having a seat belt, too.

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Yeah, but you won't hear the BOV though as much as you would if u had a MTX right? I mean the only time you will hear it is when u let off, not necessarily when the car shifts on it's own right? I was wondering the same thing, but didn't wanna get flamed.
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Well, i've got a RMVB, and it does go off whenever i let off the gas, but never inbetween shifts.
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yeah, cuz you WILL have to let off the throttle at some point!
At least, i would hope... 
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i dunno, us ATX guys are pretty hardcore..more so than those silly MTXers.

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yeah, MTX's are slower so they decided to give us more gears to make up for how slow we are... and you were also blessed with only having three gears because you atx's put down so much more power, right?
JUST KIDDING 
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EGGGGzactly!!! 
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this did not get a lil off topic did it?
Anywho, as I mentioned, no matter what you read...you need a BOV to get the prussure out under deceleration. Otherwise......imagine this...
200DB ECHO bouncing off the wall and coming back to you, what happens? your ears blow out,you get knocked to the ground etc..
Now imagine pushing 10psi free flow and then all of a sudden a wall closes, that 10psi is stuck and there is backpressure from it bouncing off a wall and back tracking through the intake track. That is what causes turbine failure...back pressure.....
Use ANY bov as long as you have one on the car! FYI, properly setup...the cheap plastic dodge T2 FWD cars BOV's can handle 20psi of boost...
Anywho, as I mentioned, no matter what you read...you need a BOV to get the prussure out under deceleration. Otherwise......imagine this...
200DB ECHO bouncing off the wall and coming back to you, what happens? your ears blow out,you get knocked to the ground etc..
Now imagine pushing 10psi free flow and then all of a sudden a wall closes, that 10psi is stuck and there is backpressure from it bouncing off a wall and back tracking through the intake track. That is what causes turbine failure...back pressure.....
Use ANY bov as long as you have one on the car! FYI, properly setup...the cheap plastic dodge T2 FWD cars BOV's can handle 20psi of boost...
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