Do I need a BOV for an ATX???

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Do I need a BOV for an ATX???

Post by LCPLPunk » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:05 pm

Hey guys,

Before i spend the 100 or so bucks to get a BOV, i was wondering if i really need one with an ATX. I rememeber hearing/reading something that said i won't.

Now, I do have the Reverse Manual Valve body so i can manually shift it, and so i'm wondering if in that case i might need one.

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Post by Louie » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:13 pm

with an automatic you dont lift off the gas in between shifts. ..so if you think of it like that you dont need one ..

but you still eventually have to lift off the throttle, and when you do, you'll get a ton of compressor surge and could possibly end up messing your turbo up without a blow off valve
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Post by LCPLPunk » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:54 pm

Wisdom from the ancients! Thank you! :)
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Post by eVilcreations » Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:11 pm

Louie wrote:with an automatic you dont lift off the gas in between shifts. ..so if you think of it like that you dont need one ..

but you still eventually have to lift off the throttle, and when you do, you'll get a ton of compressor surge and could possibly end up messing your turbo up without a blow off valve
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Post by nodestiny » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:47 pm

So basicly, on low boost, you probably could get away without having one. But you could get away without having a seat belt, too. ;)
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Re: Do I need a BOV for an ATX???

Post by Novajoe » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:53 pm

LCPLPunk wrote:Hey guys,

Before i spend the 100 or so bucks to get a BOV, i was wondering if i really need one with an ATX. I rememeber hearing/reading something that said i won't.

Now, I do have the Reverse Manual Valve body so i can manually shift it, and so i'm wondering if in that case i might need one.

Thanks ONCE again!
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:09 am

you need a BOV no matter if you have a MTX or a ATX.

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Post by rice_eater » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:24 am

nodestiny wrote:So basicly, on low boost, you probably could get away without having one. But you could get away without having a seat belt, too. ;)
but you cant getaway with using 3 tires

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Post by Baal » Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:25 pm

rice_eater wrote:
nodestiny wrote:So basicly, on low boost, you probably could get away without having one. But you could get away without having a seat belt, too. ;)
but you cant getaway with using 3 tires
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Post by 2001DodgeNeonSe » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:26 pm

No You don't but it helps, Plus i like the noise. hehe
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:08 pm

^^^
As stated before, you HAVE to have a BOV...no questions asked. If you run without one, then you will find out soon enough why its there....

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Post by sxt_003 » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:17 pm

Yeah, but you won't hear the BOV though as much as you would if u had a MTX right? I mean the only time you will hear it is when u let off, not necessarily when the car shifts on it's own right? I was wondering the same thing, but didn't wanna get flamed.
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Post by LCPLPunk » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:14 pm

Well, i've got a RMVB, and it does go off whenever i let off the gas, but never inbetween shifts.
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Post by LowNSlow » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:25 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:^^^
As stated before, you HAVE to have a BOV...no questions asked. If you run without one, then you will find out soon enough why its there....

You dont have to have one.. ;) You can just jack up your turbo and what not..
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:08 am

BOV's relief pressure out of the upper pipe when the throttle is closed. This is to ensure that you dont have compressor surge wich will damage the bearings, fins.etc..

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Post by nodestiny » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:45 am

yeah, cuz you WILL have to let off the throttle at some point! :D At least, i would hope... :?
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Post by LCPLPunk » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:18 am

i dunno, us ATX guys are pretty hardcore..more so than those silly MTXers.

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Post by tamadrumr88 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:18 am

yeah, MTX's are slower so they decided to give us more gears to make up for how slow we are... and you were also blessed with only having three gears because you atx's put down so much more power, right?


















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Post by LCPLPunk » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:19 am

EGGGGzactly!!! :)
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Post by tamadrumr88 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:20 am

damn you replied while i was typing!

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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:40 pm

this did not get a lil off topic did it? :lol:
Anywho, as I mentioned, no matter what you read...you need a BOV to get the prussure out under deceleration. Otherwise......imagine this...
200DB ECHO bouncing off the wall and coming back to you, what happens? your ears blow out,you get knocked to the ground etc..
Now imagine pushing 10psi free flow and then all of a sudden a wall closes, that 10psi is stuck and there is backpressure from it bouncing off a wall and back tracking through the intake track. That is what causes turbine failure...back pressure.....
Use ANY bov as long as you have one on the car! FYI, properly setup...the cheap plastic dodge T2 FWD cars BOV's can handle 20psi of boost...
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Post by 03sxt » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:01 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:150DCB ECHO
Edited: Ahhhh... You meant '150 decibel (db) echo'. I was thinking that a 150DCB ECHO was some kind of dirtbike or something. :lol:

150db wouldn't be enough to put you on your ass, though. I'd say something like 200. :)

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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:06 am

edited post :lol:

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Post by 03sxt » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:31 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:edited post :lol:
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