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Post by thisdieingdream1 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:03 pm

does any one know what year that pt cruiser is that has the 140 amp alternator and if the plug is the same for a 04 sxt

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Post by NickKo » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:13 pm

thisdieingdream1 wrote:does any one know what year that pt cruiser is that has the 140 amp alternator and if the plug is the same for a 04 sxt
I thought that ONLY the Turbo PT's have the 140 amp alt ?

2002-up PT Cruisers were available with the turbo, but I have never seen one in a junkyard yet.
All the PT's I have seen in the junkyard, were N/A.


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Post by thisdieingdream1 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:30 pm

well im looking to upgrade my amps to infinity kappa 1 and an infinity kappa four. both have a fuse rating of 80 amps i believe.

so 160 amps...

i need a bigger alt. i would buy a new one from somewhere. but i need to know if the 140 amp alt plug would fit my car

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Post by sidepipe87 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:43 pm

Matt (nitehawk) put a PT alt on his car last year. I don't recall which model he used it from.
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Post by nineball » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:22 pm

keep in mind the alt is regulated by the pcm, so just sticking a bigger one in there really won't help you a lot. you would be better served by doing the big 6 (we need 6 not 3) and if that doesn't solve it then add a second battery.

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Post by Themaggots » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:32 pm

Only voltage is PCM regulated no?
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Post by NickKo » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:28 pm

sidepipe87 wrote:Matt (nitehawk) put a PT alt on his car last year. I don't recall which model he used it from.
Correct.
It was from an N/A model, and not a Turbo model..... He said the Turbo PT Alt. would not fit.
NiteHawk wrote:Due to trial and error I can 100% confirm that the pt Turbo alternator is not compatible with the neon. The mounting points are too far apart and the connector is different.



Themaggots wrote:Only voltage is PCM regulated no?
The maximum amperage is dependent upon the build of the alternator itself, if that is what you are asking.
And Yes, the PCM regulates how much voltage the alternator puts out.



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Post by heydockyle » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:37 pm

N/A is 126A I believe. Still much more then the 85? I think neon alt.
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Post by nineball » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:43 pm

or you could just find one from a post may '05 sxt which would be 120a.

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Post by occasional demons » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:09 pm

NickKo wrote:
Themaggots wrote:Only voltage is PCM regulated no?
The maximum amperage is dependent upon the build of the alternator itself, if that is what you are asking.
And Yes, the PCM regulates how much voltage the alternator puts out.
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The alternator will put out whatever amperage it is capable of, to maintain the target voltage. The target voltage will vary depending on ambient temperature. There isn't really a direct way to control the amperage output. It is basically a response to how far the voltage drops.
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Post by a23dranger » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:51 pm

so trying to read threw all the posts and links posted here and the other links.. i can take a 2.4 n/a pt 120 amp or late 04-05 neon 120 amp alt and throw it in my 00 or 02 neon, plug it in and have no issues and have less dimming?
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Post by thisdieingdream1 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:51 am

WAIT oh boy... YOU GUYS lol... now im even more confussed...

where are you guys geting 04 05 dodge neon 120 amp alt?

i have a 04 sxt and it is 85 amp alt... i need a 120 amp alt...

are you saying the 2005 dodge neons all models have a 120 amp alt adn is a direct bolt on to my 04 sxt?

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Post by occasional demons » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:29 pm

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Post by thisdieingdream1 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:50 pm

so the 136 amp alt from a turbo pt cruiser is a DIRECT BOLT ON TO MY 04 SXT?
the only thing i would need to do is upgrade wiring to 4 gauge?

is this the SAME with the 05 dodge neon 120 amp alt?

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Post by heydockyle » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:12 pm

thisdieingdream1 wrote:so the 136 amp alt from a turbo pt cruiser is a DIRECT BOLT ON TO MY 04 SXT?
the only thing i would need to do is upgrade wiring to 4 gauge?

is this the SAME with the 05 dodge neon 120 amp alt?

Do you read? No, the turbo pt alt will not work.


NiteHawk wrote:Due to trial and error I can 100% confirm that the pt Turbo alternator is not compatible with the neon. The mounting points are too far apart and the connector is different.

The 120A neon alt will work.
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Post by thisdieingdream1 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:53 pm

what? dude thats why i had asked... i know that there are diffrent makes of alts for sertain years of cars... i remmeber reading that guys post. but then i wasnt sure what year and all he was talking about...

i got confussed

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Post by nineball » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:07 pm

like i said before, possibly even twice already in this thread, sxt models produced AFTER may 05 have a 120a alt.

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Post by racer12306 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:52 pm

nineball wrote:like i said before, possibly even twice already in this thread, sxt models produced AFTER may 05 have a 120a alt.
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Post by Public Disturbance » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:58 am

If your really serious you could get ahold of the guys at mechman they offer a bolt in 270 amp for the sohc neon thats what i have in mine with red top and im running 15.4v at idel dropping down to 14.0-14.2 full tilt with a kicker zx2500.1 and a kicker zx650.4

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Post by nineball » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:37 am

15.4v is way too much at idle. you are going to screw up something electrical, probably soon.

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