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Post by DoubtedNeon » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:10 pm

first off, my only real problem right now is that anywhere under about 2k rpms my car bogs and leans out, eric tuned the car so thats out of the question.

but something happened, i dont think i have any exaust leaks! what could be the problem?
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Post by doyle09 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:17 pm

so i take it since this is in forced inductions, your turbo, boost leaks?
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:23 pm

im thinking its having to do with something turboed because it only stalls up when i enter boost in lower rpms
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Post by doyle09 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:37 pm

how much boost are you hitting at 2k. you shouldn't be really in boost until over 3k.
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Post by LionheartedSXT » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:44 am

He is using an srt stock turbo, so it probably goes into boost relatively quick given its size.

Colt, maybe check your fuel injectors? Or better yet one of the vac lines connected to the housing on the turbo.
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:30 pm

i checked that line, its fine. what could be wrong with the fuel injectors? how do i check those?
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Post by LionheartedSXT » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:47 pm

Pulling them from the fuel rail and inspecting them. I was thinking maybe a cracked one, or maybe one is really dirty. I'm just assuming since you say it leans out at low rpms, If it doesn't occur at higher rpms then that may not be the case.
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Post by lilnicko11 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:26 pm

Boost leak test
Disconnect battery and reset PCM
Check injectors (maybe try injector cleaner)
Possible crappy sensor somewhere
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:43 pm

well, basically anywhere under 2k rpms my car limps, it wont go anywhere and af reads - - - still, also when it comes out of - - - it reads very lean. idk wtf is the problem, i c no leaks in the exaust, possible boost leak?
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Post by dtjackten » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:26 pm

possible bad wideband, if the af reads nothing that is what i am assuming the "- - - " means. if the wideband is not infact reading properly i think ms goes into a "limp" type mode.... but running lean when it comes back "on" does not make sence, i would think it would show rich....
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Post by SlvrACR » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:04 pm

I kind of had the same prob and it was bad grounds goin to ECU
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Post by esteinmaier » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:20 pm

If you can get it down to me a week from Sunday, I'll take a look at what's going on from the sensor inputs, and that should give us a clue as to what's going on.
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:16 am

ok, cool.

so next sunday? ill see if i can

still gotta check the exaust im taking it off tom.
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Post by Jamie » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:43 am

pull your o2 sensor if you can, let it hang in free air, and push the button to recalibrate it. The innovates your supposed to recalibrate every 6 months or so.

Also there is a rare time that it runs so rich that the sensor will read lean. Limp modes usually dump fuel instead of cut it
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Post by T-Nasty » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:29 pm

the --- means an off scale lean or rich condition.im sure eric will get you fixed up if its a MS issue. What is your fuel pressure at idle? are you running a RRFPR?
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:47 am

how do i recalibrate it?
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Post by Jamie » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:09 pm

If it is one that can be calibrated, expose the sensor to free air and do whatever calibration sequence that your manual says.

For the LC-1 it has a button that you push. 1. expose sensor to free air. 2. Push calibration button. 3. watch status LED blink a specified number of times saying its calibrated (dont remember what number of blinks.

so if you look at my pillar pod I have the gauges themself, an LED, and a button. The LED is my WBO2 controller status light, and the button is my calibrate button. (o2 guages is second one down in stack though)

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Post by DoubtedNeon » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:23 am

well, my wideband is callibrated from the factory, so that couldnt be the problem.

still have that problem

re introduced the coolant sensors to the system the other day, that seemed to fix some of the running rich problems.

every time i boost in a higher gear, as some ofu know, i have a strange ticking sound that is not detonation.. im assuming its the turbo wheel banging around in the turbo. ill check to see if that little bastard has play today.

im at a loss for what my leak could be comming from, im thinking im gonna stay up tomm night or tomm morning and try to figure this problem out.
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grindpunk16 wrote: You and about 2 dozen other folks want that cover. It came with the car, and it's all mine.. :twisted: :bootyshake: \:D/

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Post by DoubtedNeon » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:02 am

just a little update, the ticking sound went away... just sorta faded away.

still running strange under 2k in any gear.
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