New iPhone, 4g or not?

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:11 am

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

I don't see anywhere that it supports 4g. ATT is not even scheduled to deploy 4g until late 2011.

What I see happening is here is that they will release the 4 and in late 11 or early 12 they will release a "new" iphone 4g and instantly double sales since people will be upgrading again! anyone agree?

I'm gonna wait it out.

I keep seeing it advertised as the iPhone 4G

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:35 am

Funny thing, from what I understand, it doesn't use a 4g network, is a bad marketing ploy and is just another run of the mill iPhone.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:13 am

4G I think signifies 4th gen.

There was the Iphone, then the Iphone 3G to accomodate the 3G system, then the 3GS, and now the 4G.

The 4G does have some nice features that you can't get with a 3GS, however you can get the 3GS for cheap and put OS4 on it and get most if not all of the software updates. The iPhone 4G is supposed to have better battery life and the front facing camera is the big new feature I think.

OS4 will be available on June 21, iirc.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:24 am

It's the 4th generation iPhone, it is not called the "4G"

all of our signage in our stores says "iPhone 4"

Even the Apple website calls it the "iPhone 4"

http://www.apple.com/channel/iphone/iphone-4/tour/

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:26 am

I heard somewhere on a podcast, that from now on, they'll probably be releasing one each year around the same time. I just picked up the HTC Incredible though, and I'm never looking back. My GF loves all the apple products ... I can do without em.

contagious18 · Post by **contagious18** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:57 pm

I thingk once AT&T upgrades to the 4g network they will just have and update on the iPhone

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:22 pm

As Mox and Frank said, it's the 4th generation iPhone. Nothing to do with the network.

On that note, I'm a die-hard apple user (own an iMac, Macbook, MacMini, Airport Extreme, and iPod classic currently), but vastly prefer my Android phone. I hate closed systems. It's why I'll never own an iPhone or iPad. I do shit with my Droid that iPhone users dream of, short of having to jailbreak the thing.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:48 pm

My iPhone is 100% free. I did not pay for the phone, the accessories nor do I pay for the service. I am not complaining.

I like the iPhone, but it does leave me wanting more. I do hope that OS4 fixes some of that.

d0ne420 · Post by **d0ne420** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:58 pm

the only differences with the iphone 3GS and the iphone 4 is the iphone 4 has a video camera on the front side... it has a 5mp camera instead of 3mp and its a little bit slimmer...

it still uses the same network...

my gf just got a iphone 3gs because she didnt want to wait until next month for the iphone 4 like i am... silly girl wishs she had

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:03 pm

^Not to mention a "better than OLED" display. So he says... whatever jobs, your lcd will never have the contrast ratio of OLED.

OB · Post by OB » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:07 pm

The 4 is a lot more than just a front camera...

-It uses the new Retina display, which has 4x the pixel resolution of the 3GS, which is already known for it's fantastic display by today's standards. Text is said to be as clear as the BEST printed text in a high-end publication. Obviously, picture and video is also greatly improved. Apparently the display is downright ridiculous in person.

-The phone uses the same chip as the ipad, so it is going to be faster and much more versatile than the 3gs.

-The skeleton is made out of stainless steel for strength, and doubles as the phones antennae. Never been done before.

-The iphone 4 is 24% thinner than the 3gs, making it the thinnest smart phone in the world.

-There are a few other physical changes aside from the new look, like split volume buttons etc.

I've been doing a fair amount of research and this thing is a beast. Do want.

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:23 pm

apple = grimy.. i have a jailbroken iphone and love it, but i feel like they are being grimy.. google iphone4 u will get articles saying its 4g... not saying apple is marketing it that way but some lesser folk will just buy it and then re-buy it when 4g comes out... apple knows how to make money lol

OB · Post by OB » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:10 am

Nothing wrong with taking advantage of idiots who don't know any better. Look at all the TV shopping shows and stuff like that; only older women and complete dbags fall for that BS. It's like natural selection for the economy

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:15 am

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:24 pm

Downloaded iOS4 today.

WIN.

2001 ACR · Post by **2001 ACR** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:44 pm

I'm sorry I wasn't on here earlier, I could have cleared up all your confusion for you. I work for AT&T, and watched a live blog of the Apple Conference...

The iPhone 4 is the 4th iPhone that Apple has released. It is NOT 4G and it will not support 4G. But don't be discouraged, AT&T won't release 4G to the majority of American cities till 2012, so it won't be outdated next year by a faster network. Speaking of network, the iPhone 4 (as well as the 3GS) accesses a network which the 3G iPhone can not, HSDPA. HSDPA is much faster than existing 3G data. Generally, standard 3G will get you 850 Kbps-1.5Mbps (depending on the city, time of day, coverage, etc), whereas HSDPA can get you 3.6Mbps - 7.2 Mbps (ideally).

Now, back to the iPhone 4. It's amazing. The screen has 4 times better resolution, so videos, pictures, games; basically everything looks better (It's like going from VHS to blueray). It's thinner. The camera is 5 MP and also takes HD videos at 30fps. It has a front facing camera, which I'm sure Skype will soon take advantage of. The device has a 1 Ghz processor and 512 MB of RAM, so it's a workhorse. Also, the antenna is on the outside of the device (the metal band) and is supposed to be stronger (though it may take a couple firmware updates...). The battery has 40% longer life.

In the mean time, if you have a 3GS, I wouldn't complain. With the new update (ios4) through iTunes you get multitasking (pandora and texting!), folders, wallpaper, a universal inbox for emails, and tethering (internet on your pc or mac through your iPhone)!!! The tethering works amazing btw.

So yeah. The iPhone 4 is not the iPhone 4G...

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:22 pm

os4 made my 3g a paperweight... i can barely text it slowed down my phone like whoa!

so sad.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:32 pm

Once again, Macfag here. The new iPhone is not amazing:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/appl ... olding-th/

El Oh Fucking El

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:52 am

The iPhone fanboys drive me insane. The number of idiots I had to deal with yesterday was just retarded. Id much rather stick with my palm treo pro and HTC aria than even touch an iPhone. It's not all that and a bag of potato chips. It's especially not worth waiting in line overnight for. It was fun telling them we only had enough phones for our preorders and they wasted their night. Lol

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:03 am

I am so sick of hearing about the Iphone really.. Like, who gives a shit. My girlfriend has one and I am not that impressed.

Out of all the functions on her phone that "amazes me" one really stands out.. It is when I drunk text on her phone, it corrects a good amount of my typos. Thats it.

I have an itouch because its a music player. I have a smart phone for well, my phone.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:32 am

My HTC aria does that text correct feature too.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:14 am

Droid does "T9" typing when using the qwerty touch keyboard also.

I have Itouch, Droid, and good buddy has an Iphone.

Overall I like my Droid better.

TeckNeon · Post by **TeckNeon** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:48 pm

I have a MyTouch 3G and a 2G iPhone that I use on T-Mobile. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I have had my iPhone for over 2 years now. I am also a Mac user. I prefer the iPhone for everyday use but my Android phone is great for what it is and all that it can do. It's only running 1.6 but when 2.2 hits, it will be a far better experience.

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:30 pm

lol and the iphone 4 doesnt work when you hold it. sounds about right!

2001 ACR · Post by **2001 ACR** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:22 pm

Yes, the iPhone 4 does need a firmware update (already...). The issue dissapears when you put a case on it though. It's really, really weird. There's a specific spot on the lower left side of the phone that if you touch it, causes the phone to loose 2 bars of reception. Weird. Some Apple tech dropped the ball on that one

I've used Windows, Palm, Android, and Apple OS. Overall, I like Apple the best (their phone at least, I don't own any other Apple products). Android is the best for hard-core techies (it's completely open source), followed by Palm imho. I think Android will be amazing in another year or two, it just needs to get more streamlined and user friendly.

OB · Post by OB » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:33 pm

2001 ACR wrote:Yes, the iPhone 4 does need a firmware update (already...). The issue dissapears when you put a case on it though. It's really, really weird. There's a specific spot on the lower left side of the phone that if you touch it, causes the phone to loose 2 bars of reception. Weird. Some Apple tech dropped the ball on that one

I''d bet that the fact that the stainless body doubles as the phones antannae has something to do with both of those issues. You also may have just gotten a bad apple too (no pun intended lol).

Regarding the rest of the comments, I've never personally owned or even used any of the other smart phones, so I can't be too objective. I do love my 3GS though, by far the best phone I've ever owned. OS4 is awesome so far, aside from the fact that the ipod is having an issue playing on my Pioneer head unit via USB. It plays, songs, but the audio cuts out for about 2 seconds every 5-6 seconds. It never did that once before, and the headunit hasn't been dropped (or even taken out of the car), so it really has to be the phone. I'm gonna be pissed if it can't be corrected.