Bully Dog WatchDog Economy Engine & Vehicle Monitor

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:54 pm

http://www.bullydog.com/product.php?ID=1

http://www.jegs.com/i/Bully+Dog/159/40402/10002/-1

anyone bought/used one of these before? i think the black one from jegs looks pretty cool but i dont know if its really worth it. says its suppose to help with gas mileage plus it monitors different engine parameters. what do yall think? is it worth $255?

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:04 pm

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:09 pm

While I'm not a fan of the Neon's lack of gauges and such, I wouldn't buy one.

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:13 pm

meh im looking at it more for the "driving coach" to help save gas. i drive 52 miles a day going to work.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:23 pm

I'll coach you... don't drive with a lead foot.

Lesson over and I only charge $100!

PM me for my paypal.

fusion210 · Post by **fusion210** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:38 pm

There are a lot of options now for fuel economy gauges. I wouldn't get that one unless you really wanted the gtech features or just liked the looks.

I'm still rocking my scangaugeII http://www.scangauge.com/

MPGuino which you can assemble yourself http://ecomodder.com/wiki/index.php/MPGuino
http://ecomodder.com/forum/opengauge-mp ... puter.html

Also varieties of software for netbooks/laptops that seem far more flexible than the above.

Forest Green 2k wrote:I'll coach you... don't drive with a lead foot.

Lesson over and I only charge $100!

PM me for my paypal.

You actually save gas with heavier acceleration. As long as you aren't going into open loop. Your engine will produce power more efficiently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_spec ... onsumption

I'll take that $100 from you, PM me for my paypal.

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:02 pm

fusion210 wrote: You actually save gas with heavier acceleration.

not if it gets you to the red light or stop sign faster.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:03 pm

not really worth the money....
If you want better gas mileage leave the engine stock and drive consertavely....
My modded Magnum motor would get 25mpg average 35highway...

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:08 pm

hmmm, looks like just another odbII monitor for me.

fusion210 · Post by **fusion210** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:12 pm

iskyfly wrote:
fusion210 wrote: You actually save gas with heavier acceleration.
not if it gets you to the red light or stop sign faster.

That's why you drive like a normal person when it comes to things like that. In no way did I suggest heavily accelerating to a stop sign where you'd have to slam on the brakes.

BlackRoseRacing wrote:not really worth the money....
If you want better gas mileage leave the engine stock and drive consertavely....
My modded Magnum motor would get 25mpg average 35highway...

It's a tool like every other gauge. If you use it, the savings are there.

Otherwise, it's like trying to follow a certain speed without the speedometer or a tach.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:58 pm

SCANGUAGE II <<--------------------------------- FTW

acr · Post by **acr** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:21 pm

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:18 pm

eastwoodsn352 wrote:meh im looking at it more for the "driving coach" to help save gas. i drive 52 miles a day going to work.

Here's they key, drive conservatively, check your tire pressure weekly, track your milage at every fill up. You'll save more by doing these three items than any gizmometer hooked up to the obd port will. Plus most people already own a calcultor, the math is easy. Unless your dumb as shit, then the math is hard, BUT, if you're rocking a state issued drivers license you can probabbly handle it.

I've been driving like a hero on my superawesome 125km one way commute to and from work and have still been pulling off on average 40mpg imperial (about 33mpg us). Driving conservatively it should be up around 45mpg, but I sleep in a lot and time isn't free, and gas is cheap.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:23 pm

fixitmattman wrote:
eastwoodsn352 wrote:meh im looking at it more for the "driving coach" to help save gas. i drive 52 miles a day going to work.
Here's they key, drive conservatively, check your tire pressure weekly, track your milage at every fill up. You'll save more by doing these three items than any gizmometer hooked up to the obd port will. Plus most people already own a calcultor, the math is easy. Unless your dumb as shit, then the math is hard, BUT, if you're rocking a state issued drivers license you can probabbly handle it.

This.

Don't drive like a dipshit and you will get good mileage.

I've got 38+mpg multiple times on highway trips.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:31 pm

racer12306 wrote:This.

Don't drive like a dipshit and you will get good mileage.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:35 am

i got 40mpg highway with a trunk full of shit full interior 2.4 and 3.55 gears on a 950 mile trip on all three tanks (39-41 mpg)

even now i got around 33-35 on a 300 mile trip with 3.94 gears .81 5th and gutted and not to light on the foot

dont floor it keep your distance between you and other cars so you dont have to jam your brakes and then pick back up again its all simple stuff

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:38 am

The thing will cost more than the gas you are trying to save. As is stated, drive conservatively and you will save a lot of money on the mpg~

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:44 am

Buy a moped.

Problem solved.

fusion210 · Post by **fusion210** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:08 pm

They're also good for practicing driving techniques and modifications to improve fuel economy.

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:13 pm

I actually suggest getting a Garmin GPS system. Since there's a section called "Driving Challenge" which can score the way you drive and give the suggestion of how to save gas and the most important thing is it's a GPS... I actually like this function very much.

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:17 pm

they tested that here and found out that the garmin often tells you the shortest way - and you will end with 300 traffic lights and more gas...

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:46 pm

He is talking about a "driving game" not the actual driving.

It rates your accelerating, decelerating and speed. You pretty much fail on the highway because of going 70mph.

I mess with it yesterday, I didn't like it too much.

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:29 pm

even though everyone is saying no i think i still might buy it...

I'll keep up with exact MPG for the next few weeks driving normally like i do now. Then once I buy it i'll go by what the bully dog thing tells me to do. If its worth the savings in gas...i'll keep it and if not.....i'll return it to JEGS.

Sounds like i'm going to need to prepare a parts/product review thread in the near future.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:52 pm

its gonna tell you to accel slower, and keep i within speed limit..

the scanguage is half the price a 1/3 the size.. and will let you watch MPG, gallons per hour, you can input cost when you pump fuel so you can see Cost per minute, watch TPS, engine Timing, engine load, manifold pressure, blah blah blah.... oh horsepower, and o2 up and downstream sensors with the xguage... youd be surprised how little HP it uses to keep the car cruising along...

you can also change the guage backlighting color to match your interior lightin etc.. i like blue

matches all my leds...

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:12 pm

This is all you need to calculate exact fuel economy.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:50 pm

I'm buying a scanguage. Probably this winter.

But for many reasons besides fuel economy.

You drive an econo box. You don't need to buy something specifically for fuel economy.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:29 am

heydockyle wrote:I'm buying a scanguage. Probably this winter.

But for many reasons besides fuel economy.

You drive an econo box. You don't need to buy something specifically for fuel economy.

for the cost of the bulldog for that function it would take you a while to save as much money as you spent