R/T guys, what plugs should i use

kirktalife · Post by **kirktalife** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:00 pm

i gotta change my plugs soon, what should i go with, 02 r/t

Stonebender · Post by **Stonebender** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:09 am

Normal Champion or NGK copper plugs. Stay away from that platinum shite.

Knoxville_R/T · Post by **Knoxville_R/T** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:11 am

plugs......i would go with the cheapo champion copper ones. Everything else seems to make the car run bad. the ngk(or whatever they are called) work as well, though I dont know what type to get. The copper ones that i grab at autozone haven't let me down in over 3 yrs on my 01' r/t. Oh and by the way, they will have to look up the part under the normal engine b/c hardly anything will pull up for our "hgh output"
-Brian

04r/tneon · Post by **04r/tneon** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:38 am

i got ngk v-powers they work just fine

ChrisRT · Post by **ChrisRT** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:30 am

Champion RC9YC

or Autolite 3923's

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:32 am

stock champs here. tried to buy v-power's one time but they were sold out. champs havent let me down.

kirktalife · Post by **kirktalife** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:10 pm

cool thanx guys

Post by **Diablo0** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:19 pm

Champion Copper Plus or NGK V-Power here

kirktalife · Post by **kirktalife** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:06 pm

cool i bought the Champion RC9YC, nice and cheap too haha, well see how they run soon

blazesxt · Post by **blazesxt** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:05 pm

I ran some Accels for a while and they had my car feel a bit sluggish as soon as i swapped them for a set of ngk iridium i was very pleased.

Sparky828 · Post by **Sparky828** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:28 pm

I know guys have already said this in this post but... NGK v-Power

refect · Post by **refect** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:57 pm

04r/tneon wrote:i got ngk v-powers they work just fine

ngk v-power > all

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:03 pm

NGK iridiums here...
They are the same plugs I used in my 03 SXT 2 years ago, I pu 15k on them in my 03 SXT, then swapped them into my 02 R/T last december. They got almost another 15k on them, and they even survived the motor mishap I had back in August.
The best plug I ever used!!!
Champions, ill never use again...DCx is starting to fase them out because of the problems of the ceramic seperating from there base...misfires,total seperation...etc...
There actually starting to fase in NGK's at DCx....
As for the Bosch Platinums....

try them....you'll regret it...oooo platinum, Platinum +2's, Platinum +4's,,,,lol....garbage. How many TopFuel drag cars do you know run more than one electrode....not many. There is no need for +4's let alone double platinum plugs that degrade under any forced induction application. You cant make power with platinums.
I switched from BOSCH when I started running any modded car, NGK's have never let me down. Hell, I even got a guy running an Iridium plug in his ATV and he swares by it now......
Choose what you want, or what your money can pay for. If you want to run standard coppers...fine....platinums...fine. But from my personal experience I got almost 30,000miles on a set of iridium plugs from NGK, between 2 different cars, 2 totally different mods and setups...
Hell, right now I got my plug gaps set to .050 on a stock coil! the motor bounces off of 7k rpm without a hassle!.....

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:57 pm

http://www.nology.com/hot.html
http://www.nology.com/silver.html

http://www.championsparkplugs.com/more_ ... &pid=19843

Has onyone tried the Nology stuff on a neon

I used to use the wires on my Accord and Prelude and it gave a little extra power on My hondas but I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with these on a Neon also Why when you go to Champion they give you a totally differ part# for Neon Not RC9YC

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:12 pm

well, how scientific do you want to get?
The TOP 3 conductors are:
Silver
Copper
Gold.....
But, when in comes into play with an internal combustion engine there are more aspects to have to worry about...heat,pressures..etc...
You notice not many people are creating a Gold plated spark plug, gold is to soft of a metal to run in High temps, let alone high pressures. Copper has been widely used as the so called STANDARD spark plug. Even though its not copper color in person, its actually a blend of metals again to support the High pressures and temps.
As for silver, as mentioned above...thats the only company I know offering a Silver spark plug, but it still boils down to its not in a pure form....

Here is what I say:
http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/tech ... _plugs.htm

ChrisRT · Post by **ChrisRT** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:15 pm

What are the NGK plug numbers for 01 Neon R/T's?

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:29 pm

Give me a sec to run out to my garage, ........2min later
NGK IRIDIUM # BKR6EIX
thats for a stock heat range platinum plug from ngk. Advance Auto states list prive of $17 each but will sell for $7 here in WNY....

RopeRat1 · Post by **RopeRat1** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:40 pm

As a former Mopar Tech and a retired instructor, I use the Champion RC9YC, which updates to a RC9YC4. Gap them at 0.040".

I run these in my '04 R/T and they smooth the idle slightly.

A copper core plug uses high strength iron electrodes, which are hollow. The hollow area is then filled with copper to allow for higher heat transfer. This places the electrodes deeper into the air/fuel mixture for better ignition characteristics without overheating the electrode tips.

The only engine I tried platinum plugs in was a 1969 Opel GT with a '73 1.9L engine. The Bosch plugs were a disaster in that they constantly fouled. I replaced them with a set of Champions and they performed flawlessly.

Jonathan (RopeRat1)

kirktalife · Post by **kirktalife** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:55 pm

awsome, i am puttin em in tommorow and i will let ya know, what do they come gaped at to begin with?

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:30 am

^^^
OE Champs come gapped at .035

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:41 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:well, how scientific do you want to get?
The TOP 3 conductors are:
Silver
Copper
Gold.....
But, when in comes into play with an internal combustion engine there are more aspects to have to worry about...heat,pressures..etc...
You notice not many people are creating a Gold plated spark plug, gold is to soft of a metal to run in High temps, let alone high pressures. Copper has been widely used as the so called STANDARD spark plug. Even though its not copper color in person, its actually a blend of metals again to support the High pressures and temps.
As for silver, as mentioned above...thats the only company I know offering a Silver spark plug, but it still boils down to its not in a pure form....

Here is what I say:
http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/tech ... _plugs.htm

Hey,
I was kinda just wondering about the wires. I have never used those plugs before and I have never even herd of them until I went to the website....But the wires work great I was just wondering if anyone with a Neon has ever used them

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:33 pm

probably not because of the expense...
But from:
DCx manager with a 2GN Mitsu turbo AWD
DCx employee w/ ATV's
Cutsomer w/ SRT4
and I all sware by the NGK iridiums, they come pre gapped, but im running my at .050 on a stock coil. No one that I mentioned above has ever had a problem. Not even in rich conditions!

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:28 pm

I think i will switch to the NGK's when I change out all my wires and coil and such but I am really leaning on getting the nology hotwires........My buddy runs the ngk cold plugs on his 02 civic si with a GReddy turbo kit and he swears by them as well.......oh and why are yours gapped to.050?......just curious

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:14 pm

from my dirtbike experience.....
If you ignition is hot enough, .050 will let you rev higher than .035

EX:
.035 lets you max @ 5k rpm
.040 lets you hit 5500 rpm
,050 lets you hit 6k rpm.....etc...etc..

Those are not specific, but its just to give you an idea. My dirtbike , with a 4stroke revved to 9k rpm after regapping and running 4 condensers on a 12volt standard coil...

Ash · Post by **Ash** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:01 pm

Champions, ill never use again...DCx is starting to fase them out because of the problems of the ceramic seperating from there base...misfires,total seperation...etc...

The first time I changed my wife's SXT plugs, the ceramic was busted in half... thought maybe they were overtighted at the factory.. I'll be keeping my eye on that then.

As for my R/T, i've been running the RC9YC's since I got it and change them every 10,000 miles, i'm approaching 69k and haven't had any problems yet.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:20 am

^^^
2.4 PT's are coming in constantly for misfires due to the ceramics seperating from the base. DCx updated the part number and pt's now run a different heat range champion, it think colder now.
4.0 jeep motors are also fasing in a new NGK copper plug to replace the champions...