Crash data suggest driver error in Toyota accidents

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:33 pm

Hm. Imagine that.

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The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that the throttles were wide open and the brakes weren't engaged at the time of the crash, people familiar with the findings said.

r/tguy02 · Post by **r/tguy02** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:34 pm

yeah, i think a lot of those yuppies are retards, i saw this coming. not saying the accelerator problem shouldnt be fixed, but people should be smart enough to get the damn thing stopped.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:42 pm

There was some speculation of the computer crashing and not recognizing that the brakes were being pushed.

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:52 pm

I don't actually believe there are that many drivers fault operation. The black box cannot explain everything. Even Toyota states that the data recorders only record if the system is working properly or not. If it fails, then wrong data will be recorded.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:21 pm

Perhaps the throttle was wide open, because the PCM put it there? It's not like the driver can directly connect to it. If the pedal was stuck, then yes the throttle would be where the PCM sent it to, based on the load/pedal input. It doesn't know why the pedal is where it is.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:30 pm

Yeah, I have a feeling that the ECU can't tell us everything that happened. Just because it's telling us people weren't slamming on the brakes, doesn't mean they really weren't.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:13 pm

JeffM wrote:Yeah, I have a feeling that the ECU can't tell us everything that happened. Just because it's telling us people weren't slamming on the brakes, doesn't mean they really weren't.

Plus some people could have just panicked and didn't think to hit the brakes.. there are a lot of morons on the road..

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:36 pm

toyotas need a black box LOL

DuhNeon179 · Post by **DuhNeon179** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:09 am

Toyota, moving forward even when the brakes are pressed.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:25 am

DuhNeon179 wrote:Toyota, moving forward even when the brakes are pressed.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:48 pm

Still goesn't get Toyota off the hook for all of the other recalls though.

GreeNeons03 · Post by **GreeNeons03** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:57 pm

Toyota's money to sway the results, suggest driver error in Toyota accidents

Fixed that title for you.