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intake runner question

Post by dtjackten » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:54 am

alright, i have been thinking about this for a while now.... and i would like to go to a AMM box style intake manfold, but on a boosted car, would there be any real noticable gains from a indy intake to a AMM.... the amm is deffenetly a bling factor for sure in my book (but 400 dollars for just bling i dont think it is worth it unless i am getting some power out of it as well).... but i am just wondering if i go with an AMM should i go short runner or long runner with boost? i am going to also have him (if i do it) install my nitrous nozzle in the manifold, making the engine bay hopefully alittle cleaner....

mike says that the AMM does have dyno results for N/A cars of a few hp, but that is also on non boosted engines...

i have been talking to all motor mike a few times but i am just unsure if it is worth the 400+ dollars for a new intake..

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Post by occasional demons » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:22 am

I'm going to say if you have an Indy already/or can get one cheap/reasonable, it would be your best bet. The runners are already suited for boost. They are too large for most N/A apps. Unless AMM is making the IM from a flange out, with larger runners dedicated for boost, I would stick to the Indy.

Just comparing the SRT IM to a N/A IM the runners are short, in relation to the diameter.

But then Mike could taylor the inlet to work with your piping, VS making the piping work with the Indy, or cutting/welding the Indy.

Your HP goals may also have some deciding factors.
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Post by dtjackten » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:57 am

my hp goals are 400 to the wheels.... i would think i am prolly 300ish right now, from what some have ridden with me say atleast.... that is only running 10psi.
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Post by Broken Glass » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:53 pm

300hp? i need to ride in your car soon, and help me tune ms :-)
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Post by Ntyvirus1 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:08 pm

the shootout thread on the other org has a shit ton of info. If anything i tihnk u can send the indy to mike and he can port the hell out of it.
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Post by esteinmaier » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:20 pm

Yea man. Keep the Indy. They don't suck.
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Post by dtjackten » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:44 am

alright, thanks erick, i was hoping that you were going to chime in on it..

and honestly getting all motor mike to port my indy may not be out of the question, i have done a mild port and polish on it, but nothing to extreme....
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Post by blue demon02 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:59 pm

dtjackten wrote:alright, thanks erick, i was hoping that you were going to chime in on it..

and honestly getting all motor mike to port my indy may not be out of the question, i have done a mild port and polish on it, but nothing to extreme....
Skip Mike I can put you in touch with Arthur and see if he would do the porting. As he is the one that proved how much power the indy can make. And he can port like a mo-fo. I have ran the indy before on a boosted motor and I have another one sitting here that's going on a friends car as soon as he comes and gets his turbo kit.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:46 am

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I vote for the AMM, the one I had 3 years ago was a large plenum short runner with a 2 1/2" input......

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Post by blue demon02 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:00 pm

Yup and if i remember correctly it made more power then the indy did in every rpm.
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:45 pm

blue demon02 wrote:Yup and if i remember correctly it made more power then the indy did in every rpm.
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Post by v95 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:44 am

it made most power out of na cause when I bought mine it was rated that with the upgrade the AMM it set him the one tester at about 190hp ish N/A. The short runner which I had was really beneficial on creating torque. I still have mine and honestly It was probable one of the best manifolds out there. if you plan to boost it Mike told me it was not rated for boost so you might want to consider having it redone for a boost application. I have a write up about it in my project log. I would recommend them to you but you but you would need to see what mike can do for your boost application.

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Post by Fuzzyneon » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:58 pm

v95 wrote:it made most power out of na cause when I bought mine it was rated that with the upgrade the AMM it set him the one tester at about 190hp ish N/A. The short runner which I had was really beneficial on creating torque. I still have mine and honestly It was probable one of the best manifolds out there. if you plan to boost it Mike told me it was not rated for boost so you might want to consider having it redone for a boost application. I have a write up about it in my project log. I would recommend them to you but you but you would need to see what mike can do for your boost application.

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AKA have the indy ported if your doing anything a port vs price of a new manifold it wont be significant i dont think i could be wrong
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Post by dtjackten » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:41 pm

yeah, i have talked to mike about a manifold gains, and his have been proven great for NA apps. but boost has never been tested is the only problem... i will prolly be keeping the indy, but i am still not sure... if i can get a smokin deal on a AMM i would pick it up, well seeings i do have a ngc na car to.... lol
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:05 pm

dtjackten wrote:yeah, i have talked to mike about a manifold gains, and his have been proven great for NA apps. but boost has never been tested is the only problem... i will prolly be keeping the indy, but i am still not sure... if i can get a smokin deal on a AMM i would pick it up, well seeings i do have a ngc na car to.... lol
yeah i mean id want more results with boost you probably wouldnt get a whole lot just up the boost a bit lol
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