WTF? A/C lines hitting Mag IM - Update.

[occasional demons]

I scanned through both Mgnum IM how-to's and didn't see any mention of the A/C line connected to the compressor hitting the IM. Am I the only one who has an oddball line? I can't believe everyone that has a Magnum IM has removed the A/C, or has an A/C delete car. The '01 parts manual shows no difference between ECB or ECH lines.

Unless it is a '00 A/C line. Anyone have issues installing the Mag IM on an A/C equipped 2000?

Not the best pics, as it is hard to get a good view of it.






The lines go up high enough to hit the bottom plenum, before bending to the driverside and down.

[SlvrACR]

Ive done a Mag intake swap on both a 00 and 02 and neither hit. Does the ac bracket have any adjust on it, like oval bolt holes to slide is down slightly?

[Haganracing]

I did a mag intake swap on my 2002 sxt neon. Never hit any lines. I did however have to take off every bracket that held the plastic intake manifold up.

[ZeroChad]

I never hit any either, or maybe it did and I didn't notice/care. They're gone now though so I can't check for ya. Are you sure you're not contacting at the stock intake bracket?

[occasional demons]

Stock intake bracket is gone, on both ends. The A/C compressor would need to drop prolly an inch to clear the line. I think it is just the big (suction) line that is too high.

I don't believe it is an aftermarket line, but you never know. The car had 68,000 on it when I got it. Everything appeared to be oem original tho. It just sucks that I may have to spend $100ish for a line, plus w/e an evac/recharge cost to retain my A/C, if I want to run this IM.

If this ebay pic is accurate for an '01/'02 suction line, then mine is definitely not the correct line. Mine doesn't have that short "U" bend. It more comes straight up, bends 90º goes another couple inches and bends back down at a 90º

Edit: That line would not attach to my receiver/drier tho. Ballsacks!

[NickKo]

2000's were a kind of 'weird' year for Neons, just like the 1995's were....
It seems there was lots of mixing and matching of parts, until Chrysler settled on one supplier, or one combination.

I bet that the line on the car is original from the factory, but it is the "wrong" configuration to run with a Magnum intake.
Is the part number for the line, different for the 2000 model year, compared to 2001-up ??


- Nick

[occasional demons]

Yes different PN, but SlvrACR stated he didn't have an issue on his '00. Not that it means much.


My '01 also had the 2.00" '00 exhaust on it. I know an'03 up line won't work, as they moved the drier to the firewall area in '03.

I am going to have to look at the compressor bracket to see if it can be adjusted, or modified to be lowered.

Unfortunately, the A/C plumbing is one of those things we don't pay much attention to. Well for maybe SRT swaps more than much else...

[gilly02le]

just by looking at that, it seems like your heater line outlet is on a bit of an angle, maybe its just the way it looks in the picture. Ive got a 2002, but when i get home from work, ill see if i can get a picture of the clearance between my manifold and that line for you.

[occasional demons]

As for the bottom pic the heater tubes are fine, That was the only suckass pic of the compressor I had handy.

I am thinking of doing a how to for a complete hose replacement. Unfortunately, I had to get the car back together, so I didn't have much time to get better pics. I was mainly going to mount the Mag IM, to see what I needed to attach my 60mm TB, while I had my current IM off the engine.

[NickKo]

I am thinking of doing a how to for a complete hose replacement.

Sounds like a good idea.


- Nick

[gtxtreme19]

I have all the lines off my car that I removed I will send you free of charge you pay shipping. Idk if they are the same as yours or not I can snap a photo when I get home

[Forest Green 2k]

I have all the lines off my car that I removed I will send you free of charge you pay shipping. Idk if they are the same as yours or not I can snap a photo when I get home

What a guy!!!

[quicksilvr]

Didn't hit any lines when I put a Mag IM on my 2000 either. Weird.

[g_force58]

Bill, my 2000 ES has the same a/c lines as your car. Mine was built on 4-99. Could it be there was a change to the lines after that build date? Check your build date, this could be the reason you are having trouble. I'm interested in this now, because if I install a mag IM I will know the solution to the problem as will everyone else. That's why I love 2gn, peeps seem to work together on solving problems.

[quicksilvr]

Whoa, just saw the pictures. I've never seen lines like that on any of the 5 2gn's we've had. Three have been 2000's. Crazy.

[occasional demons]

Borrowing Gnuserup's picture...

From what I can tell, mine are like these. they stick up fairly tall.



I will try to get better pics soon, as my HG has decided to start oozing coolant out the front. Thankfully it is not going to the internal side of the engine. (Yet)

I guess it is Magnum head time. Hopefully it isn't the block that is the cause. If so, it might be 2.4 swap time, and the Magnum IM will no longer be an issue.

[quicksilvr]

What's strange to me is that the heater lines are way different as well. All the ones I've seen go low across the front of the block...

[occasional demons]

Update:

Better view of lines:









IM bolted at left end:





I simply bent the line to the front. I only need to be sure it doesn't rub the fan guard/cage when the engine moves. I may need to tweek it a bit.









So if you happen to have this oddball line, it is just a matter of gently bending it to your will.

[Mopar00Neon]

My '00 has an 11/99 build date, and my line looks just like yours, but it doesnt touch my Mag intake. Weird.