CEL?

garfield3887 · Post by **garfield3887** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:11 pm

Ok, I changed my water pump today, put everything back together, car runs fine... but... my CEL is on now... so I took it to the parts store to have the code read... but there was no code... I had the battery disconnected while I was working on it. I brought it home and reset it again and the CEL came back on in about a minute... wtf would make it come on? I don't think I broke anything while jacking it up and down... timing belt looked good... tension seemed good... alt might need a little slack on it cause there's a little "squeak or chirp" when I rev it... I dunno what's up!

Kelevra · Post by **Kelevra** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:41 pm

maybe the timing is off? but then it wouldn't run that well/at all

My timing was off a tooth, no code, ran/idled fine except at high RPMs

The ecu will throw a code if it's off 7* or more (2 teeth) unless your ECU is finicky then 1 tooth could make or break.

but that's all speculation. try the 'key dance': without starting the car cycle the key on off on off on and a P xxxx code should come up on the Odo (xs are numbers) post it here or look it up on the corresponding thread viewtopic.php?t=11307

garfield3887 · Post by **garfield3887** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:19 pm

hmm... I could have swore the timing belt was spot on, if even but maybe 1 tooth off... i know it was 1 tooth off when i removed the old one.

I've noticed after driving it a bit, even though it runs and drives fine, there is a *whirrrrrrrrr* sound kinda like a small vacuum, or turbo sound, or a little jet engine coming from that side of the engine now.

I've not had much luck with the on off on off on off method to pull a code... but i'll give it a shot...

garfield3887 · Post by **garfield3887** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:37 pm

P 1390(M) Timing Belt Skipped 1 Tooth or More Relationshipbetween Cam and Cranksignals notcorrect.

That's the code it gave me... Just great... I wasn't looking forward to tearing that down again since it took me 6 hours today... Back to the grindstone i guess...

Kelevra · Post by **Kelevra** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:42 am

garfield3887 wrote:P 1390(M) Timing Belt Skipped 1 Tooth or More Relationshipbetween Cam and Cranksignals notcorrect.

That's the code it gave me... Just great... I wasn't looking forward to tearing that down again since it took me 6 hours today... Back to the grindstone i guess...

Yep, thought so. I hope your valves are ok since it is a Close Interference engine

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:38 am

If he's been driving around, I'm sure the valves are still fine.

Once you set the marks, turn it by hand two complete revolutions, and recheck.

garfield3887 · Post by **garfield3887** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:10 pm

Fixed the timing, thank god it didn't take as long to tear down this time! Purrs like a kitten now! Thx for your help!