best valve body?

seisephiroth · Post by **seisephiroth** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:11 pm

was looking on turbo action and found:
Torqueflite 404,413,470 (Includes Neon 3 Speed)|No Eng. Braking in 1st |PRN123| 81-00| 14156N

is this what i need?
and what does No Eng. Braking in 1st mean?
help please

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Sun May 07, 2006 5:26 pm

im about to install my rmvb next weekend but i need to kno some dos and donts before i go mess something up.

theHumP · Post by **theHumP** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:21 am

DO follow the directions

their easy and well mapped out,

DONT buy a pan gasket with your trans filter, or dont use the one that comes with it if it does, just use the one that came with the valve body.

The filter I bought came with a rubber pan gasket that I tried to use instead of the cork gasket that came with the valvebody, the rubber one was wrong, and the fluid draind out, had to buy more and drop the pan again

increase your line pressure by turning the hex bolt 2.5 times (clockwise) I did it 3.25 times and at slow speeds the 1st-2nd shift is real rough, it does however spin the tires between gears.

and only use ATX+3 or 4

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:38 am

theHumP wrote:only use ATX+3 or 4

Don't use +3 only +4, you'll regret it

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:49 pm

aight got it! +4, dont use pan gasket, increase pressure, and follow directions. now what are some DO and DONTS while driving. i kno 1 is dont down shift to 1st while goin 70mph lol

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Mon May 08, 2006 7:35 pm

Do get a tranny cooler, you'll regret it if you don't.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:07 pm

holy thread ressurection!... one thing ive never seen addressed in the valve body questions.., maybe i missed it.. but with the modern valve body it remains fully automatic, but firms up the shifts, meaning raising the rpm shiftpoint and eliminating the gear overlap?. wouldnt this be annoying for regular daily driving?. slamming into gear everytime it shifts?.
also, with the RMVB, when you shift it manually, is it a smooth shift?.. or again does it eliminate the overlap, and just throw you into gear hard?...

leaning torwards the fully auto one that modern has, but not if the ride sucks when puttin around town.

just a couple questions i havent specifically come across an answer to yet. thanx..

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:10 am

I read on the other org that the one on modern does what you said it does. But as for daily driving I heard its pretty ghetto since it takes every gear to a high rpm before shifting, so IDK if you are light on the throttle if that will change.. As for the Cheetah E-shift that thing is what you want. Its a clutchless shift and I heard its very smooth. Cheetah FTW! Be kind of stupid to get the one at modern IMO, won't be fun.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:27 am

thats what i figured about the one from modern.. if anyone that has the RMVB installed on their car can chime in, that would be appreciated...

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:38 pm

Look at the above posts, they got it.

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:16 pm

having both. They both shift hard. If you plan on putting around and don't like a nice solid shift don't get either. When your ATX goes into gear it goes into gear. Personally go with the RMVB then you can control when it shifts. The performance VB from Modern will shift hard while in a parking lot, cruising mildly, the only way you can keep it from shifting is to either put it in 1st or let off the throttle, it can get annoying getting that jerk at 1/4 throttle.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:01 am

awesome, thanx.. thats the info i was lookin for...

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:45 pm

I am actually considering the RMVB again. I am just afraid it will be hard on the tranny, even though I have a tranny cooler. Especially knowing I can go to redline with the gears.

I would tear my tranny up. Too tempting.

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:28 pm

raul-01 wrote:I am actually considering the RMVB again. I am just afraid it will be hard on the tranny, even though I have a tranny cooler. Especially knowing I can go to redline with the gears. I would tear my tranny up. Too tempting.

Actually the RMVB is easier on your tranny because it no longer overlaps gears and shifts instantly. I've had mine for over 3 years now and I have literally tried to kill it. Damn strong tranny, oh and I also have a B&M tranny cooler.

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:40 pm

ok so im a little lost

what exactly are you talking about codes?

but hey anything thats lets an auto shift when you want to is good enough for me sign me up

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:33 pm

inthesync wrote:ok so im a little lost

what exactly are you talking about codes?

but hey anything thats lets an auto shift when you want to is good enough for me sign me up

And you are talking about what? Codes?

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:28 pm

You can shift an automatic, but it ruins the transmission. the RMVB lets you do it without hurting anything.

He is wondering what kind of codes does it throw?
I know it throws codes , doesn't it? I am actually considering about buying this RMVB again.

Where exactly did you get yours? I know turboaction.com has one but you can't order from them, or can you?

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:07 am

no i just want to know what everyone was saying about codes....like look up a few posts ago and theyre talking bout codes which now im lost

look im no car expert but the only codes i know of are for like your ECU and like the damn check engine light (which by the way around here costs over $100 just to have the code reset....but the guy did it for me for free...thank god for hook ups)

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:38 am

inthesync wrote: look im no car expert but the only codes i know of are for like your ECU and like the damn check engine light (which by the way around here costs over $100 just to have the code reset....but the guy did it for me for free...thank god for hook ups)

im in the wrong line of work..
disconnect the negative battery cable, will reset the codes, for free....

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:04 am

aquariuskid2001 wrote:
inthesync wrote: look im no car expert but the only codes i know of are for like your ECU and like the damn check engine light (which by the way around here costs over $100 just to have the code reset....but the guy did it for me for free...thank god for hook ups)
im in the wrong line of work..
disconnect the negative battery cable, will reset the codes, for free....

But then they come back like a monster! :naka:

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:32 pm

yeah i know that you could just disconect the negative battery terminal but i dont think some times so

ok so if i was going to do this mod where would i find the tranny cooler....and is there like a limit on the amount od miles that should be on the tranny or no cuz im thinking mines been run too much for this mod unless i get a new transmition

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:59 pm

You got under 100k? The tranny cooler and the RMVB will actually HELP your tranny. You can find a tranny cooler at any auto parts store. If they don't have it you can probably order one. They have em' on eBay I think. I would get you a link but I am too tired right now. They are like $40 too.

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:47 am

i dont think id trust something like this off of ebay...no offense cuz thats where i got my CAI but yeah....just a little sketchy about stuff on there

so as long as i have under 100K im good right

but where to find the cooler

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:31 am

I edited my post, I effed up and instead of saying tranny cooler I put RMVB on the second sentence. I am pretty much guessing on the 100k... Our trannies are strong....

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:21 pm

most of the tranny coolers on ebay are the same ones you get off summet or autozone. i got my b&m off ebay for 30 bucks cheaper then i would have if i got it anywhere else and it came with everything needed to install and the origianl pack not just a brown box

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:47 am

so what do i just search for a tranny cooler for a 00' neon or is there going to be something special to look for....or do i just search for tranny cooler

like is this what im looking for

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-FINNE ... dZViewItem

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:37 am

I don't know about that one you posted, the shape is effed up. Here is one that is better....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20000-GV ... dZViewItem

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:37 pm

hows the install rate...pretty easy or is it something i should have some friends help with?

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:48 am

I had mine installed at a shop, They charged me for an hour but it took them longer.

They said they had to take the radiator out to put it on. They come wtih directions too. I didn't do it b/c I was lazy and had cash flowin at that time...

inthesync · Post by **inthesync** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:06 am

ill check at my local shop...the guy usually runs me fair deals for installs

you suggest having the RMVB installed by a shop or is it an easy install...not like im too pansie to do it my self or anything