Whats the best " Cheapest" NOS setup for Purging?

2001DodgeNeonSe · Post by **2001DodgeNeonSe** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:33 am

I want to be able to pull up to somebody and purge? Just for show, Maybe use the purge as a intercooler spray or something. Opinons and advise. Thanks in advance.

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:25 am

i can hear the rice police coming. hope your flame suit is thick

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:32 am

be nice rice_eater

he soudns just like me, i have autozone washer leds and a pair of racing stripes i did MYSELF on my car

besides, everyone needs a lil rice in their diet

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:47 am

hehe, far be it for me to criticize

if it was me, i would add a little spark plug to the combination and shoot flames out the sizzide and melt the opponent's wheel. should also work wonders if you live or drive through really ghetto neighbourhoods

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:08 am

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:57 am

for starters, rice eater...dont turn this into the org

for seconds, adding a spark or flame to a NOS purge will not send any flames...
And finally, rice eater, I like the idea! mmm, flame throwing purges...mmm, mix a lil propane with the N2O and it might create some nice shows

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:04 am

whaat? that's not how they make those big naawzzzz rocket jet fuel streams shoot out the exhaust in documentaries like F&F? do they shoot straight up rice out the tailpipe?

Sparky828 · Post by **Sparky828** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:50 pm

nitrous oxide is not flamable until it is broken down into separate nitrogen and oxygen molecules... The reason that it does this inside the engine is because of the extreme heat conditions in the engine that break the nitrous oxide down, Therefore releasing the oxygen molecules making a hotter combustion... Someone correct me if im wrong but i dont think i am...

unsuper man · Post by **unsuper man** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:15 am

ill stay away frm this thread.

2001DodgeNeonSe · Post by **2001DodgeNeonSe** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:21 am

Uh yeah thanks for the flaming advice

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:14 am

I hope I didnt come across as a flamer, I wish i could help, but i dunno squat about nos.

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:02 am

Sparky828 wrote:nitrous oxide is not flamable until it is broken down into separate nitrogen and oxygen molecules... The reason that it does this inside the engine is because of the extreme heat conditions in the engine that break the nitrous oxide down, Therefore releasing the oxygen molecules making a hotter combustion... Someone correct me if im wrong but i dont think i am...

Yes that's Nitrous works.

rice_eater wrote:whaat? that's not how they make those big naawzzzz rocket jet fuel streams shoot out the exhaust in documentaries like F&F? do they shoot straight up rice out the tailpipe?

Gas + Spark = F&F

All nitrous is is an oxygen booster, you need a fule source to ignite the flame, and the you get F&F shit.

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:35 pm

2001DodgeNeonSe wrote:Uh yeah thanks for the flaming advice

all you need is a tank, a line from it to the outside of the car, and a button that'll actually make it shoot the nitrous...you can probably piece that together yourself, or just buy a dry kit, since you can use that as an actual power adder once you're tired of wasting the nitrous. its not exactly cheap...if you just want to purge, you may be better off using CO2, since that stuff is at least dirst cheap

linkinevo wrote:
rice_eater wrote:whaat? that's not how they make those big naawzzzz rocket jet fuel streams shoot out the exhaust in documentaries like F&F? do they shoot straight up rice out the tailpipe?
Gas + Spark = F&F

All nitrous is is an oxygen booster, you need a fule source to ignite the flame, and the you get F&F shit.

what if i make the car run puke rich???????? there should be plenty of fuel left in the exhaust no?? i already tapped in an extension from one of the spark wires to this spark plug i got welded into my tailpipe. i did some math and considering the increase it'll cause in volumetric efficiency, i estimate at least 20hp. all that air in the exhaust will just be shooting out the back, creating such a big pressure difference between the intake and exhaust ports that it'll force air through the engine just like with boost. pictures to come

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:52 pm

rice_eater wrote:
linkinevo wrote:
rice_eater wrote:whaat? that's not how they make those big naawzzzz rocket jet fuel streams shoot out the exhaust in documentaries like F&F? do they shoot straight up rice out the tailpipe?
Gas + Spark = F&F

All nitrous is is an oxygen booster, you need a fule source to ignite the flame, and the you get F&F shit.
what if i make the car run puke rich???????? there should be plenty of fuel left in the exhaust no?? i already tapped in an extension from one of the spark wires to this spark plug i got welded into my tailpipe. i did some math and considering the increase it'll cause in volumetric efficiency, i estimate at least 20hp. all that air in the exhaust will just be shooting out the back, creating such a big pressure difference between the intake and exhaust ports that it'll force air through the engine just like with boost. pictures to come

ehmm...
Yeah that's uhh what I was saying. At least that's what I meant.

2001DodgeNeonSe · Post by **2001DodgeNeonSe** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:33 pm

This is what i wanna do, i just like it, even if it is riced out.

http://videos.streetfire.net/iPlayer.as ... B9D819EB0E

dinetuner · Post by **dinetuner** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:07 pm

there are some kits sold on ebay.. or you could piece your own...that i mean CO2 becuase its cheap and your not using it as a power adder..im saying $ 25 for parts and 3 buxs for a full 20 oz of co2

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:45 pm

paintball store is a great place to find a CO2 tank

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:02 pm

n2o will run you $4.00+ per pound, and generally if you purge for a full 2 seconds you will dump about 2-3lbs of n2o. Now with that said. Unless you are spooling something, and you purged next to me just be prepared to see my taillights. Case in point I had some fool (in a Hunduh)try that this past summer. Had all sorts of fancy LED's with his purge, so when he purged he had a cute lightshow. The little tool starts rev'ing his hamsters, and talking trash on how Neons are slow. Needless to say the race was decided in first 50ft, and when he finally caught up to us at the next light the GF handed him his very own personalized....

And yes he only had a purge...

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:25 pm

Im going to copy that if you dont mind....
Id love to place that on a sh%t load of cars around here!!!!
I had a Saturn SC2 race me(my cuzin) who stated that he had all these internal mods done....

lets just say in the middle of city traffic, I locked the ebrake and gave him a good smoke show....The local cops, if they seen me would have a field day...
When we had the opening, we both launched, I grabbed second, and he was in my rear view...

He even tried to do a top speed run onto the thruway, and he was lost again...

As for NOS spraying out yourtails with fuel added to give boost....it wont happen. Do your research on home built jet engines. They use turbocharges with mods, and can not generate enough thrust to move a 1 ton car...
Let alone trying to boost a car while driving.....
I'm thinking of taking the above sitation and use it for local cars around here, tak a pic and post it in the off topice forum.....as Rice Sitation...

2001DodgeNeonSe · Post by **2001DodgeNeonSe** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:19 pm

Citation is with a C not a S

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:01 am

You can order books of those from www.ricecop.com

refect · Post by **refect** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:34 pm

lol i had to do it. but uhh nitrous express and NOS happens to offer nice purge kits. a buddy of mine had a nitrous express setup and bought their purge kit. came with purge cylinoids and stuff. install was real easy. only thing was the kit came with a an exit for the nitrous that was liiek 6 inches long so we didnt have much to work with when placing where it was gonna purge out of. jus thad to go to home deopt adn buy some brass tubing to match size and used that and routed the purge to where we wanted it. intercooelr sprayers are badass too. im thinkin bout trying one out..

dinetuner · Post by **dinetuner** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:21 pm

aside from the cheazy purge.. i really like your neon... you know on the other ORG theres a guy selling nitrous kits for $350 his name is redline2 i bielieve.. they kits are almost identical to the zex kit that makes the instalation extremeley easy(iv seen it done in 45minutes at a car meet) and you could add an extra 50-70whp and have more backup on your looks...PS did i tell you i like your neon?...

unsuper man · Post by **unsuper man** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:05 pm

Kernel Panic wrote:n2o will run you $4.00+ per pound, and generally if you purge for a full 2 seconds you will dump about 2-3lbs of n2o.

LMAO, i hope your kidding. i use to purge on a regualr basis, becuase my car is black, and with no tint, my bottle pressure (living in florida) would easily pass 1500 degrees, and i blw out a NUMBER of burst disks. so i was purging all the time to lower the pressure, and i can tell you for a fact, 2 secs wont even put a dent in your bottle. id say youll probbaly get anywhere from 50-100 2 sec purges form a 10lb bottle. depending on your valve size and plubing

half_twisted · Post by **half_twisted** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:29 pm

rice_eater wrote:
2001DodgeNeonSe wrote:Uh yeah thanks for the flaming advice
all you need is a tank, a line from it to the outside of the car, and a button that'll actually make it shoot the nitrous...you can probably piece that together yourself, or just buy a dry kit, since you can use that as an actual power adder once you're tired of wasting the nitrous. its not exactly cheap...if you just want to purge, you may be better off using CO2, since that stuff is at least dirst cheap

linkinevo wrote:
rice_eater wrote:whaat? that's not how they make those big naawzzzz rocket jet fuel streams shoot out the exhaust in documentaries like F&F? do they shoot straight up rice out the tailpipe?
Gas + Spark = F&F

All nitrous is is an oxygen booster, you need a fule source to ignite the flame, and the you get F&F shit.
what if i make the car run puke rich???????? there should be plenty of fuel left in the exhaust no?? i already tapped in an extension from one of the spark wires to this spark plug i got welded into my tailpipe. i did some math and considering the increase it'll cause in volumetric efficiency, i estimate at least 20hp. all that air in the exhaust will just be shooting out the back, creating such a big pressure difference between the intake and exhaust ports that it'll force air through the engine just like with boost. pictures to come

no way, do you know what thats going to do to your headers and cat. its going to turn super bright red and kil your cat and o2 sensor. your exhaust is going to be super hot that your bumper might catch on fire if your tips are any close to your bumper.
heres a link that has cutome kits you might like.
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com:16080/Au ... ucts.lasso

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:48 pm

half_twisted wrote:
rice_eater wrote:
2001DodgeNeonSe wrote:Uh yeah thanks for the flaming advice
all you need is a tank, a line from it to the outside of the car, and a button that'll actually make it shoot the nitrous...you can probably piece that together yourself, or just buy a dry kit, since you can use that as an actual power adder once you're tired of wasting the nitrous. its not exactly cheap...if you just want to purge, you may be better off using CO2, since that stuff is at least dirst cheap

linkinevo wrote: Gas + Spark = F&F

All nitrous is is an oxygen booster, you need a fule source to ignite the flame, and the you get F&F shit.
what if i make the car run puke rich???????? there should be plenty of fuel left in the exhaust no?? i already tapped in an extension from one of the spark wires to this spark plug i got welded into my tailpipe. i did some math and considering the increase it'll cause in volumetric efficiency, i estimate at least 20hp. all that air in the exhaust will just be shooting out the back, creating such a big pressure difference between the intake and exhaust ports that it'll force air through the engine just like with boost. pictures to come
no way, do you know what thats going to do to your headers and cat. its going to turn super bright red and kil your cat and o2 sensor. your exhaust is going to be super hot that your bumper might catch on fire if your tips are any close to your bumper.
heres a link that has cutome kits you might like.
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com:16080/Au ... ucts.lasso

http://www.thehoffmangroup.com:16080/Au ... lame.lasso
AAAAWWWEESOME!!!!!!! 20FT FLAMES BIZZZNATCHES!

"a must for all vehicles"

half_twisted · Post by **half_twisted** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:13 am

rice_eater wrote:http://www.thehoffmangroup.com:16080/Au ... lame.lasso
AAAAWWWEESOME!!!!!!! 20FT FLAMES BIZZZNATCHES!

"a must for all vehicles"

Post by **racer12306** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:12 pm

i would say find a place that sells co2 tanks that racers use for their air shifters, go with one of those. no point in spending extra money when you arent goind to use it to make power. you should be able to use the co2 for a intercooler spray as well. i was thinking about doing this to my shadow. i thought it would be funny to freek some people out, purging a bare bones shadow hahaah.

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:52 am

unsuper man wrote:
Kernel Panic wrote:n2o will run you $4.00+ per pound, and generally if you purge for a full 2 seconds you will dump about 2-3lbs of n2o.
LMAO, i hope your kidding. i use to purge on a regualr basis, becuase my car is black, and with no tint, my bottle pressure (living in florida) would easily pass 1500 degrees, and i blw out a NUMBER of burst disks. so i was purging all the time to lower the pressure, and i can tell you for a fact, 2 secs wont even put a dent in your bottle. id say youll probbaly get anywhere from 50-100 2 sec purges form a 10lb bottle. depending on your valve size and plubing

Not kidding at all. A full 2 sec purge will drop the actual weight on your tank by 2-3lbs. Don't believe me. Put your tank on a digital scale, purge for 2 FULL seconds, look at the weight. Valve size and plumbing has nothing to do with it since the purge(which is a straight out) is BEFORE the fuel/n2o solenoids. For your nitrous system to do what it is supposed to do, it has to be pushing the actual liquid nitrous to your fogger nozzle(where it expands into a gas), not nitrous in it's gasous state. Hmmm 1500 degrees... Steel begins to melt at 1100 degrees F. the last I looked.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:20 pm

i think he meant 1500 psi, he was refering to bottle pressure.