K&N Vs. Other Filters

Trappy · Post by **Trappy** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:48 pm

I have to give a speech for school, and I decided to persuade people to buy a K&N filter. Anybody besides me have any input on them (good or bad) compared to Fram, Spectre, etc.?
Thanks!

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:53 pm

K&N in the long run is cheaper, but not a lot.

I noticed a slight increase in drivability in higher gears. Seemed to pull a little nicer in 5th.

The problem is that there is more room for error with oiling. Generally it isn't a problem on MAP sensor cars, but MAF sensors have been known to get clogged up when the filters are over oiled.

There was some discussion on BITOG that silicon (dirt) numbers went up in dustier areas because it doesn't filter as well.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:00 pm

racer12306 wrote:
There was some discussion on BITOG that silicon (dirt) numbers went up in dustier areas because it doesn't filter as well.

This. That's what I've heard numerous people say, and have read a couple times in different places.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:03 pm

Yeah, I never noticed it because I am surrounded by highways so the amount of dirt road that my car has ever driven on in it's 92000 miles is probably about 5 miles.

Trappy · Post by **Trappy** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:05 pm

Yeah. Seems like only the country folk complain about the dirt issue...

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:14 pm

racer12306 wrote:K&N in the long run is cheaper, but not a lot.

That really depends on the application. Since his topic isn't neon specific.

The air filters for my Raider are quite ridiculous. IIRC, about 2.5 filters would buy a K&N.

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But then again, it is a MAF control system. Tho I have contemplated swapping it over to a Chrysler speed density PCM. It just doesn't have as much power as the 3.0 in the Sundance. With 4.625:1 axles, it ought to do better.

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:38 pm

I have a K&N in the neon, it's fine. The trade off is finer filtering paper element vs. less restriction of the gauze element. For probably 90% of people this isn't going to be a big issue. For what it's worth I've put almost 200,000km on my car with a k&n, the car has over 300,000 on it.

I also ran a k&n on my escort which was a map car. As long as you don't drench the living hell out of the element it will be fine. I never had an issue, but I oiled the filter sanely.

Hudson_Neon · Post by **Hudson_Neon** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:23 am

occasional demons wrote:
racer12306 wrote:It just doesn't have as much power as the 3.0 in the Sundance. With 4.625:1 axles, it ought to do better.

not that i hate my neon, but i LOVE my duster!!! it was my first car, still have it. it's a beast!

ACHEAPSHOT · Post by **ACHEAPSHOT** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:50 pm

The chrysler engineer that was at the last Modern Performance meet said that the best filter he's found is the Supertech filters that are sold at Walmart.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:53 pm

We are talking about air filters.

ACHEAPSHOT · Post by **ACHEAPSHOT** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:14 pm

racer12306 wrote:We are talking about air filters.

Silly me

Trappy · Post by **Trappy** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:29 pm

Haha, I made an 80 on the speech. Way better than I thought. Thanks for your help