air/oil separator 56k warning

Post by **racer12306** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:22 pm

i finally got around to putting it together and getting it on my car. it has been on for 50 miles and there is already a little in the glass. im going to try and post pics, if they dont work i guess people will have to go to my cardomain site.

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:06 pm

you mean oil catch can

Post by **racer12306** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:17 pm

i guess but i see as it separates the air and the oil so thats why i call it that.

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:27 pm

i guess i should have said what its made of. it is made of approx 3 ft each of 3/8 fuel line and 1/2 heater hose. i was a little worried about the vacuum collapsing them but i checked a few times and there is a strong vacuum at the pcv valve. i made a little bracket out of stainless to mount the actual separator. ive got about $20 - $25 in this and it appears to work. there is a little more in it now after 100 total miles. it will be interesting to see how much it gets in a week (~500 miles)

does anyone know where i can get 3/8 and 1/2 vacuum line at a reasonable price?

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:48 pm

Damn, looks nice and profesinal. How-To maybe?

half_twisted · Post by **half_twisted** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:23 am

i have some pics i can post fo ra how-to its just that the server i down loaded the pics is down so i cant get them.

its quite simple, i ended up taking that lil white plastic filter off in the inside.
its made of a water filter for the air compressores. and some crank case hose..it works.

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:38 am

I made one after realizing my new P+P mag intake had oil sitting in it after a few hundred miles. After adding it for a good 600+ miles, i took it off. Didnt put nearly the amount of oil i expected and i figured it really wasnt hurting anything at the rate it was going.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:38 pm

its not hard to make at all. the only piece that took time was the little piece of stainless that holds the unit. if you cant see the bracket is attached by that body bolt. i tapped the holes on the separator 10/32 and used allen head screws. the separator is a very soft metal so stripping the holes is easy. i did one a little, bottomed out. but put some loctite in there and it should hold.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:08 am

why such a long hose, when the connection points are very close to each other?
couldn't you have mounted your air/oil separater near the battery instead?

i'm cornfused

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:20 am

when i was figuring out where to put it i looked all over the engine bay. i didnt think there was enough room to mount the separator solidly around the battery and easily empty the bowl. (without removing the separator) i like to have things mounted solidly, not flapping around. i dont have much time to be removing and installing this thing and the threads are so weak that i dont know how many times the screws can be put in and taken out.

half_twisted · Post by **half_twisted** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:34 pm

here are pics of the one i installed. i painted the top red.

half_twisted · Post by **half_twisted** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:04 pm

sorry for the whoring, just wanted to post pics of mine. never got around to it until today.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:08 pm

looks good, a lot of space is freed up when that air box is taken out.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:56 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Silver-O ... 1544QQrdZ1
^^^
Thats what I put on my R/T....I stripped the silver paint off though and polished the catch can. I had the setup you guys are posting above, but it did not totally remove the oil. Oil was still getting into my magnum manifold. With the catch can installed, I have not gotted a drop of oil in the manifold yet. Its a simple design when I took this thing apart, but for what they charge its not worth trying to make one....

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:36 pm

wow thats cheap. if i would have seen that before i made mine i would have bought that one.

half_twisted · Post by **half_twisted** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:19 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Silver-O ... 1544QQrdZ1
^^^
Thats what I put on my R/T....I stripped the silver paint off though and polished the catch can. I had the setup you guys are posting above, but it did not totally remove the oil. Oil was still getting into my magnum manifold. With the catch can installed, I have not gotted a drop of oil in the manifold yet. Its a simple design when I took this thing apart, but for what they charge its not worth trying to make one....

wow that is cheap. wish i had seen that one first. wish i trusted ebay. i would still get it but the thought of scams in ebay hold me back.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:05 am

This is a link to the supplier I got mine from...no hassles whatsover...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OIL-CATC ... dZViewItem

When it comes to this universal catch can, its not automotive model specific.Like I said, I got the kit and first thing I did was looked at the quality of this item. I could not build one any cheaper...well I probably could but for the price, it was not worth the hassle...

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:56 am

if i dont like my current i will definetly look into one from that person. $22 is about as much as others charge before shipping.

grambo · Post by **grambo** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:13 pm

I got one like half-twisted but with a mounting bracket through Grainger. With the filter removed, it catches a bit of oil. My car has never blown much oil though. Mine is mounted just where half-t's is. I have no photobucket so no pics for you!

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:49 pm

I removed my intake within the past month to give someone my MTV and ther is NO oil in the intake. The air/water seperator still got oil into my intake. And thats with a fresh shortblock from august. As I stated before, from what it costs,time,money,materials. The link I posted is the best bet. Unless someone comes out with something cheaper...

OB · Post by OB » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:28 am

can you please explain to me the purpose of the catch can. is it as important and necessary as it looks? please tell me about it asap i just re oiled my KN and cleaned it up and now im all worried lol.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:58 am

^^^
When the 2.0 SOHC neon goes into a right hand turn, the oil under the valve cover gets splashed over to the pcv valve and gets sucked into the intake manifold. This in turn gets hot oil sucked into the intake. Its not really a performance gain HP wise, its more of a way to keep contaniments out of the intake.
The SRT guys have it worse though..lol, I know someone with a 4k mile SRT4 bitching about oil in his intercooler hoses. Same scenario as above. But personally I never looked at an SRT PCV setup, I think there's is plumbed to the inlet side of the turbo..im not sure.