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Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:40 pm

im just wondering and it may seem like a n00bie question but what trim level neons and years came stock with rear sway bars? was it only the R/T and ACR models that came with them? thanks.
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Post by Diablo0 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:43 pm

It wasn't just the R/Ts and ACRs but I believe in the early years or early 2000's they came with them also.
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Post by Baal » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:59 pm

Mine is a 2001 SE and it had a rear swaybar, i dont know if it being an export had anything to do with it.
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Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:11 pm

if im looking at my rear drivers side strut. should were the sway bar mount be on the left or right side? damn do i feel like a n00bie, for askin all these questions. but i know its better to ask now then never know at all. :)
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Post by Diablo0 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:12 pm

Right side... the side toward the back of the car there will be a tab.
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Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:30 pm

thanks jason.....and i just noticed i put swap instead of sway, in my thread title
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Post by Diablo0 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:08 pm

Fixed ;-)
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Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:09 am

would it be better to just buy OEM PT GT front and R/T sway bars versus Hotchkis sway bars?

and when i install a rear sway bar on a non sway bar car, do i need to drill into my chassis to mount them? i already know i have to have that one mount on my struts, thats why im getting IPP coilovers.
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Post by rice_eater » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:36 am

Anonymous User wrote:would it be better to just buy OEM PT GT front and R/T sway bars versus Hotchkis sway bars?

and when i install a rear sway bar on a non sway bar car, do i need to drill into my chassis to mount them? i already know i have to have that one mount on my struts, thats why im getting IPP coilovers.
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you want front pt cruiser CONVERTIBLE bar if you're going the stock route(26mm). unless you find it on ebay or on another forum for cheap, i think the better bushings and slightly better handling from the hotchikins would be a better choice. you'd have to also score a 19mm rt rear and then you'd have a tight setup, but for a lot less hassle, the hotchkins again sounds like the better deal. if you want cheap, stick with srt bars and you wont be sorry.

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Post by Baal » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:31 pm

hotchkis will be better imo, they are also hollow therefore much lighter.
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Post by z3roneo » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:25 pm

I have the Srt Acr setup... 24 in the front and 19 in the back... but I'm thinking bout gettin the 26 in the front next.... :P
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Post by nodestiny » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:22 pm

Baal wrote:hotchkis will be better imo, they are also hollow therefore much lighter.
Yup. I plan on going this route.
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Post by ACHEAPSHOT » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:28 pm

z3roneo wrote:I have the Srt Acr setup... 24 in the front and 19 in the back... but I'm thinking bout gettin the 26 in the front next.... :P
You should think about getting new tires first. :lol:
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Post by z3roneo » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:42 pm

ACHEAPSHOT wrote:
z3roneo wrote:I have the Srt Acr setup... 24 in the front and 19 in the back... but I'm thinking bout gettin the 26 in the front next.... :P
You should think about getting new tires first. :lol:
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Post by grambo » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:27 pm

Hotchkis is good. Anythinig is better than nothing though. Get em' if the money is right.
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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:29 pm

well i was just wondering because i was going to lower my car with 1st gen springs w/ tokico blues, and use PT covt. front & R/T rear sway bars. and i dont want to spend over about ~$350 on suspension.
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Anonymous User wrote:well i was just wondering because i was going to lower my car with 1st gen springs w/ tokico blues, and use PT covt. front & R/T rear sway bars. and i dont want to spend over about ~$350 on suspension.
That would have to be either the biggest cheap-parts-score in history, or the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:13 am

well... i really want to sepnd near or around ~$500. i know tokico blues with springs on ebay go for 300, and i would have another 200 left over for the sway bars i want, and possibly rear strut bar.
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Post by grambo » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:16 am

Are you getting blues? IPP's? What's your goal? Are you going to autocross the car or just cruise the East Bay?
Coilovers will (should) cost more than $500 A good strut/spring combo should cost a bit more too after the alignment and such.
Then the sways are gonna' probably cost more than you think too. Just wondering............every $ counts in my garage cuz I aint got much to play with. :D
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Post by rice_eater » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:33 am

can you even legally drive at 15 though, let alone race or is this just a wish list? i would stick to good old srt springs, struts and sways for under $200... there was another post on here about a guy on srt forums selling replacement srt struts for $30... so $60 in shocks, $40 for springs, $50-$80 for sways and endlinks and then off to the alignment shop. the setup is a lot better than you probably expect and should be a good starting point

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Post by grambo » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:38 am

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Post by Frizbe » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:44 pm

Best (IMO) for the design of our suspension would be SRT springs (stock), ACR or other adjustable shocks, H-Sport Sways, a Rear stress bar, and some poly bushings. You'r looking at about 300 new for the sways, the bushing kit costs like 120, 40 for the springs, and I belive 300-1100 for the shocks.
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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:01 pm

grambo wrote:Are you getting blues? IPP's? What's your goal? Are you going to autocross the car or just cruise the East Bay?
Coilovers will (should) cost more than $500 A good strut/spring combo should cost a bit more too after the alignment and such.
Then the sways are gonna' probably cost more than you think too. Just wondering............every $ counts in my garage cuz I aint got much to play with. :D
Well i did want IPPs, and still kind of do if i was to get ipp i would get the only hieght adjustable ones and then some sway bars like hotchkis. and then buy some $100 rims and tires from my friend. i would mainly be crusing around, but then later on i want to autocross. i think i want to just get some coilovers instead of spring/strut combo now that i think of it. and im not gonna be 15 for long :D .
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Post by dinetuner » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:40 pm

hmm sounds like you just wana toy with the car... have you ever taken your car on a sorts of a track... i have.. the neon is awesome in handling(compared to other cars in its "bracket") i say get some lowering springs combine with srt struts and srt/acr route with sway bars and new brushings.. will handle like a dream and would cost under $500 just like you planned...also get some new tires will help ALOT ;)
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Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:22 am

im getting the SRT4 springs and struts now, cant pass up the deal im getting. :D
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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:26 am

do i need to do any drilling or anything when installing a rear swaybar on a non rear swaybar equipped car? after i get the SRt suspension i might also buy some SRT swaybars after.
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Anonymous User wrote:do i need to do any drilling or anything when installing a rear swaybar on a non rear swaybar equipped car? after i get the SRt suspension i might also buy some SRT swaybars after.
As far as I know, you shouldn't have to do any drilling, but I'm not exactly sure on the pre-'03s.

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Post by OB » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:47 pm

BUMP* What are good sizes for front and rear sways on a daily driver? after i do springs and shocks im gonna hook up some stiff bars; i want some oversteer and improved handling without stiffening things up much. 22mm fr/19mm r?
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Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:53 pm

do u want aftermarket swaybars or OEM. for aftermarket get Hotchkis 29mmFRONT/24mmREAR or you can get the convt. PT front and ACR/RT rear 26mm/19mm
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Post by OB » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:04 pm

arent those huge Hotchkis ones gonna make the ride suck ass? im goin for aftermarket ones only btw. thanks
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