Stock-size new tire suggestions

hound9164 · Post by **hound9164** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:43 am

It is time to replace my tires, and i need some input on new rubber.

I am currently running Yoko Avids (185/60R15), and am looking for the same size tire. I like how the Yoko's feel, but they lasted about 20K less than rated for. And i do take care to rotate them and keep them as they should be lol.

I live in Colorado, so i need something decent in snow/all weather, but i live on the western slope, so heavy snow usually is not an issue.

I want my money's worth, but reading so much in the tire forum about so many tires i could use some no BS input for future tires. And please don't say Perelli's. I don't want to buy a name. I want to buy tires....

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:31 am

What did you do to the Yoko AVID TRZ to only get 60,000 out of them?

That is the only tire I have immediate experience with other than the junk that came on the car from the factory. Even at 60,000 they are good buy for their price, but I can understand being let down by not getting the full 80,000 out of them.

My first set of the TRZs I got 55,000 miles out of them but had to turn them in under Yokohama's tire cracking warranty. They were looking to go a full 80,000+ miles and that is why I got such a good pro rating on the new tires. I have since put the TRZs on my work car (that will be a true test of their life because I've already put almost 30,000 miles on them in just over a year) and just put a set on my wife's Caliber R/T.

What really holds me to this tire is more the performance value of it for an all season tire. They are really good in all driving conditions and I suspect that finding a tire that does that and lasts 60,000 - 80,000 miles is going to be difficult in their price range and in slightly higher price ranges.

hound9164 · Post by **hound9164** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:58 pm

For the price I have almost resigned myself to getting them again. I am not an aggressive driver and do try to take care of my tires, so I really have no idea why they didn't last like they should have.

They were a fine set of tires before they seemed to go bald overnight. Sigh.

What I need to know is if there is a same-size tire that would be worth trying, or are they all nowhere near the Yoko's?

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:37 pm

I don't know how they perform but the Michelin Harmony looks like a good option, but they are $111 each. There are some really good reviews on tire rack.

The Hankook Optimo H727 looks like a decent tire and is $67 each from tirerack.

j-king · Post by **j-king** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:53 pm

what city do you live in

hound9164 · Post by **hound9164** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:46 pm

Silt, Colorado

trojmn · Post by **trojmn** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:54 pm

I went up to 195/60/15 to get a bigger selection. There seems to be more choices and more modern tires. I'm digging my $73 Yokohama AVID ENVigors. They are a bit wider and only +2% MPH AND not 80K mile rocks.

I havent had a chance in the snow yet but they do well in the rain.

Troj

OB · Post by OB » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:58 pm

^I have the same tires in the same size on my winter wheels, excellent tire. I had the old AVID V4S back in the day, and got around 20K out of them, give or take. They claimed 50k miles but I rarely see tires last as long as the OEM claims.

Frank - you've gotten 80k out of a set of tires? That's remarkable

I don't even have 50k on the whole car and I'm on my 3rd set of tires, 4th if you count the XS on my 16's that I used for 6 months this year. Stockers were balding at like 20k, ran the V4S for 20k, then the XS for maybe 5k and now the ENVigors which are brand new.

hound9164 · Post by **hound9164** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:11 pm

Will a set of 195/60/15 fit the stock rims? I got my rims in the same size as the stock rims so I do need to know...

trojmn · Post by **trojmn** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:50 pm

hound9164 wrote:Will a set of 195/60/15 fit the stock rims? I got my rims in the same size as the stock rims so I do need to know...

Yup, i have that size on snowflakes.

Troj

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:41 pm

Just because the Yoko AVID TRZ will go to 80k doesn't mean they are rocks. They are very good tires for their price.

OB wrote:Frank - you've gotten 80k out of a set of tires? That's remarkable I don't even have 50k on the whole car and I'm on my 3rd set of tires, 4th if you count the XS on my 16's that I used for 6 months this year. Stockers were balding at like 20k, ran the V4S for 20k, then the XS for maybe 5k and now the ENVigors which are brand new.

I haven't hit 80k on them yet, but they were definitely trending to hit 85k - 90k before being unsafe.

The AVID TRZs that are on the Prius are at about 30,000 miles. I haven't checked their wear yet, but it really doesn't matter too much how long they last there. That will be the first car to show how long they will last.