No start HELP

2much4u · Post by **2much4u** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:57 am

I just bought a 03 sx 2.0, the owner said it would start and stall. So i thought crank sensor. I went out to look at it and the battery was dead. Talked to the owner and he said the fuel rail wasnt getting fuel or something like that. He didnt really know anything about cars. So then i thought fuel pump was getting weak.

So long story short i bought it for $500 and got it towed home. Put a battery in it and went to turn it over and nothing. The starter isnt getting any power. No clicking or anything. So where do i start to trouble shoot. I know people are going to say start with starter but they just put a starter on it like a month ago and i have the papers to show it.

So where should i start?

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:26 am

Just because they put a starter in doesn't mean it's good. It's possible that it went out already.

Other than that, I'd check wiring first probably. Or try jumping the starter? I believe a screwdriver between the starter terminals is the way to do that, but I'm not sure.

If it turns over there, I'd check the wiring going from the battery to the starter, and if that's good, I'd check the fuses.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:52 am

Putting power directly to the starter will test it.

Try swapping the horn and asd relay and see what happens.

Themaggots · Post by **Themaggots** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:16 am

^ Try swapping relays.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:27 am

Also double check your terminal connections on the battery... you never know, could be loose or a bad connection.

2much4u · Post by **2much4u** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:07 pm

sidepipe87 wrote:Also double check your terminal connections on the battery... you never know, could be loose or a bad connection.

already did, but im going to try the screwdriver and relay now.

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:50 pm

When my car wouldn't start it was because the ground wires fell off. They were located by the drivers side headlight.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:10 pm

I just bought a 03 sx 2.0, the owner said it would start and stall

Did someone try starting it without the skim key?
If they did this 3 times the pcm will lock out the system, hence no crank...
The key you are using, is it a black head or a grey head?
To mee it sounds like the car is locked out....

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:17 pm

Good call, didn't even think about that one BRR.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:18 pm

Good point Chris.

Try swapping the horn and asd relay and see what happens.

The starter relay and one of the others.

2much4u · Post by **2much4u** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:34 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:
I just bought a 03 sx 2.0, the owner said it would start and stall
Did someone try starting it without the skim key?
If they did this 3 times the pcm will lock out the system, hence no crank...
The key you are using, is it a black head or a grey head?
To mee it sounds like the car is locked out....

Im using the chip key, but doesnt mean someone esle didnt do that. The red dot isnt on, on the cluster so thinking thats a no. I tried to jump the starter with a screw driver and nothing. So going to pull the starter and replace that.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:37 pm

Are you sure you have power at the starter? Did you at least get a spark?

2much4u · Post by **2much4u** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:25 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Are you sure you have power at the starter? Did you at least get a spark?

yeah got spark at it, and nothing

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:53 pm

Seems like a bad starter or a locked up motor then.

2much4u · Post by **2much4u** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:01 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Seems like a bad starter or a locked up motor then.

yeah even locked up motor it would try and turn over.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:22 pm

If it were locked up, you'd just hear the starter click. I suppose it's possible you could miss that somehow?

Here's hoping it's something easy like just the starter going bad.

2much4u · Post by **2much4u** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:43 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:If it were locked up, you'd just hear the starter click. I suppose it's possible you could miss that somehow?

Here's hoping it's something easy like just the starter going bad.

there is no click at all, it was -14 today so didnt really try much. Tomorrow is calling -20 i think. So will be a couple days before i pull the starter. But before i do that i will look for all the grounds and so on. But i know when i turn the key no click or anything.