Pt Performance Lca's HELP!!!!!

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:29 am

That company filed for bankruptcy last year

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:32 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:That company filed for bankruptcy last year

thats good to know

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:35 am

If you're a member on SRTForums do a search and read a bit....surmise your own opinion from what is posted there, on mazda forums and other forums. After you go through everything you'll find that you will go from

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XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:59 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:If you're a member on SRTForums do a search and read a bit....surmise your own opinion from what is posted there, on mazda forums and other forums. After you go through everything you'll find that you will go from to .

just went and read through some of it, and he sounds like a p.o.s guy.

seems as though one of his products has caused somebody's srt to burn to the ground.
He did sell the company though, so i wonder if the arms are made by "john" or the new "pt performance"?

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:02 am

He has gone by two different company names since "PTP". DFDD and HPFPUpgrade.com. Most of people's gripes were subpar quality, I have my own gripes that involve tuning but this isn't the thread for that.

I just wanted you to know that your questions may not get answered

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:06 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:He has gone by two different company names since "PTP". DFDD and HPFPUpgrade.com. Most of people's gripes were subpar quality, I have my own gripes that involve tuning but this isn't the thread for that.

I just wanted you to know that your questions may not get answered

yeah, i doubt it will

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:31 pm

looked over all the bolts today and finally figured out what was causing the noise

If you look at the arrow on the right( rod end) since it moves around on the ball joint or whatever its called, it smacks off the car ( arrow on the left.)

trojmn · Post by **trojmn** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:06 pm

XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:
LilSparkPlug wrote:If you're a member on SRTForums do a search and read a bit....surmise your own opinion from what is posted there, on mazda forums and other forums. After you go through everything you'll find that you will go from to .
just went and read through some of it, and he sounds like a p.o.s guy.
seems as though one of his products has caused somebody's srt to burn to the ground.
He did sell the company though, so i wonder if the arms are made by "john" or the new "pt performance"?

Yeah those threads are epic as were his knock thresholds.

The PTP threads with Duster are especially entertaining.

Tro

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:44 pm

trojmn wrote:
XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:
LilSparkPlug wrote:If you're a member on SRTForums do a search and read a bit....surmise your own opinion from what is posted there, on mazda forums and other forums. After you go through everything you'll find that you will go from to .
just went and read through some of it, and he sounds like a p.o.s guy.
seems as though one of his products has caused somebody's srt to burn to the ground.
He did sell the company though, so i wonder if the arms are made by "john" or the new "pt performance"?
Yeah those threads are epic as were his knock thresholds. The PTP threads with Duster are especially entertaining.

Tro

as much as people hate the guy, i like the adjustable control arms he made

trojmn · Post by **trojmn** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:25 pm

Regarding PTP, even a clock is right two times a day.

Glad you got it figured out. I suppose you could space out that hiem joint *A LITTLE* to give it room to move. Though im not sure of the stress on that bolt. How does it compare with the OE ARM?

If in doubt, I'd consult a M.E.

Tro

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:30 pm

trojmn wrote:Regarding PTP, even a clock is right two times a day.

Glad you got it figured out. I suppose you could space out that hiem joint *A LITTLE* to give it room to move. Though im not sure of the stress on that bolt. How does it compare with the OE ARM?

If in doubt, I'd consult a M.E.

Tro

thought about spacing it out, but it would take a damn good amount of spacing to achieve that.

It uses oversized 1/2" grade 8 bolts.

what do you mean by compare? like handling wise?

-Cody

trojmn · Post by **trojmn** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:41 pm

XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:thought about spacing it out, but it would take a damn good amount of spacing to achieve that.

It uses oversized 1/2" grade 8 bolts.

what do you mean by compare? like handling wise?

-Cody

I was meaning the load center of the OE arm on that bolt. That should give you a general refference of how far away from the frame that bolt will handle the loading.

I was under the impression that your issue was the hiem joint end turning and contacting the LCA mount

Tro

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:07 pm

trojmn wrote:
XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:thought about spacing it out, but it would take a damn good amount of spacing to achieve that.

It uses oversized 1/2" grade 8 bolts.

what do you mean by compare? like handling wise?

-Cody
I was meaning the load center of the OE arm on that bolt. That should give you a general refference of how far away from the frame that bolt will handle the loading.

I was under the impression that your issue was the hiem joint end turning and contacting the LCA mount

Tro

if you look at the picture above, i put two arrows on where the two make contact.

and i have no idea how to check the load lol

Dylan-00Blue · Post by **Dylan-00Blue** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:41 pm

uhhh wtf are those pliers doing there?

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:44 pm

Dylan-00Blue wrote:uhhh wtf are those pliers doing there?

idk, i stole the picture from their website and just put arrows on it.

trojmn · Post by **trojmn** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:53 pm

eh then i dont get it. Those two arrows look to be a few inches apart. One on the heim joint and the other on the mount point of the rear sub-frame, and a whole lotta nothing in between. whatever it doesn't matter if i get where the impact is...

My point is that the OE LCA end is fairly wide, meaning entire shear load of that LCA is transmitted on that bolt over 1.5" or so? If you need more LCA to frame clearance you could IMHO done carefully you'd be reasonably safe to space your joint out half that same distance, maybe a touch more.

Tro

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:02 pm

trojmn wrote:eh then i dont get it. Those two arrows look to be a few inches apart. One on the heim joint and the other on the mount point of the rear sub-frame, and a whole lotta nothing in between. whatever it doesn't matter if i get where the impact is...

My point is that the OE LCA end is fairly wide, meaning entire shear load of that LCA is transmitted on that bolt over 1.5" or so? If you need more LCA to frame clearance you could IMHO done carefully you'd be reasonably safe to space your joint out half that same distance, maybe a touch more.

Tro

i understand now.
The noise doesnt really bother me though, im going to just leave it for right now

thttxboy · Post by **thttxboy** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:02 am

I'm sure I know exactly what noise you are talking about. Back about 1 1/2 years ago I bought the DCR rear control arms brand new, I installed them just the way they said too and almost immediately I had this rattle in the back. I could kick the tire on the ground and hear this rattle. I later got a good deal on Mopar Performance rear control and installed those and sure enough no more rattle. I think the noise comes from the joints since DCR does sell spacers with their kits. Like danteneon said its just the sound of performance.

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:53 pm

thttxboy wrote:I'm sure I know exactly what noise you are talking about. Back about 1 1/2 years ago I bought the DCR rear control arms brand new, I installed them just the way they said too and almost immediately I had this rattle in the back. I could kick the tire on the ground and hear this rattle. I later got a good deal on Mopar Performance rear control and installed those and sure enough no more rattle. I think the noise comes from the joints since DCR does sell spacers with their kits. Like danteneon said its just the sound of performance.

yeah thats the noise for sure.