2000 ATX to MTX swap

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:48 pm

Well i got a few questions before i start buying the parts for the swap.

Im simply tired of the 3 speed auto. as i see it this seem simple. this is a "TH" ATX and shouldn't have much of the wiring going into it

first question will a later "1g" neon MTX work? if so whats the best? I already know if i want the hydrolic clutch i have to change the bellhousing right?

is there any other differences between all year MTX's? gears? differentials?

that be all for now...

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:40 am

Any trans from 95-00 will work and keep your cable clutch. The two choices you have are the 3:55 or the 3:94 (in the R/T and ACR)

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:00 pm

Those are the different US-spec final drives. There are a few other differences here and there with gearing (namely 5th, with .81 and .72), but as stated, any 95-00 transmission will work.

I would stick with cable operated clutch, as the '00 cars were designed for it, and already have the proper firewall provisions.
http://www.modernperformance.com/blog/1 ... -breakdown

stairmaster3001 · Post by **stairmaster3001** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:31 pm

if u have a 2gn you will have to swap bell housings for a 1gn tranny.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:35 pm

Not at all. He has a 2000. The 2000 uses a cable to operate the clutch just like a 1st gen.

OB · Post by OB » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:56 pm

Danteneon wrote:Not at all. He has a 2000. The 2000 uses a cable to operate the clutch just like a 1st gen.

Indeed.

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:14 pm

Tho I noticed the other day, that the '00 parts show both cable and hydraulic set ups. Not sure if any late '00's had hyd tho. But the parts were available in '00, assuming the parts list was issued to the dealers in late '99.

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:39 pm

Probably for the '01+ model year. The only '00 hydro clutch cars were the RHD export cars.

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:51 pm

Mopar00Neon wrote:The only '00 hydro clutch cars were the RHD export cars.

This. I went back and looked.

Z = CHRYSLER (RHD)

It is all listed as "Z"

I just glanced at it, as I was getting a PN for the cable, and was in a hurry.

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:36 am

so i dont have to find another bellhouseing? i can use a 1g housing but i got to find a 2000 pedals... i found couple of 1g's at the junkyard yesterday but sadly no 2g's there is a 2000+ acr/rt listed which i will go hunt down tommarow see if its still got anything good. im planning on ripping the transmission apart to inspect and maybe rebuild if its not decent enough

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:59 am

Darkwing wrote:so i dont have to find another bellhouseing? i can use a 1g housing but i got to find a 2000 pedals...

Correct. As long as you get a '95 through '00 MTX.

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:09 am

well update i found several 1gn mtx's (local pull n pay) all of them attached to the engine... going to go take my tools out there this weekend.

question is will the flywheel, clutch and fork work on my sohc?

If i were to order a new clutch kit would i be able to just order a 2000 clutch?

And, ive been looking at wiring diagrams .. im sure i can do the swap with out mods excluding the PRNDL and speed sensor right?

thanks again

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:25 am

Darkwing wrote:

question is will the flywheel, clutch and fork work on my sohc?

If i were to order a new clutch kit would i be able to just order a 2000 clutch?

Any clutch kit from 1996 to 2005 will work. They all use the same modular clutch assy. (Flywheel/disc/pressure plate)

The 1gn fork/TOB should work. I would use a new TOB tho.

An N/A PT Cruiser clutch will also work, if you want to upgrade. If you are pricing them from your local parts store, just ask for a 2001 PT non turbo. Modern Performance sells them also.

stairmaster3001 · Post by **stairmaster3001** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:54 pm

i have some parts already for my swap but idk if i will be able to do it till after summer

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:36 pm

Someone should mention.... that you can use ONLY the Clutch PEDAL ASSEMBLY from another 2000 Model Year Neon, for swapping in an MTX in a 2000.

2001-up was different, due to the hydraulically-assisted clutch, and changes to the firewall.

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:02 pm

Darkwing wrote:so i dont have to find another bellhouseing? i can use a 1g housing but i got to find a 2000 pedals.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:50 pm

Actually, you should be able to use any 1995-2005 MTX.
BUT, you can not use the 2001-2005 bellhousing, in a 2000.

To clarify what Bill said, you will have to use a 1995-2000 bellhousing.
If you find a 2001-2005 MTX, you will have to unbolt / swap out the bellhousing, and bolt on the bellhousing from a 1995-2000 in its place.

I hope I didn't make that sound too confusing.....

- Nick

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:05 pm

NickKo wrote:Actually, you should be able to use any 1995-2005 MTX.
BUT, you can not use the 2001-2005 bellhousing, in a 2000.

To clarify what Bill said, you will have to use a 1995-2000 bellhousing.
If you find a 2001-2005 MTX, you will have to unbolt / swap out the bellhousing, and bolt on the bellhousing from a 1995-2000 in its place.

I hope I didn't make that sound too confusing.....

- Nick

Unless i fit in a hydrolic clutch assembly RIGHT!?!

ummm i think i get that already...

i get the difference in bellhousing because of the cable and hydro difference.

still like to say thanks guys now i know what to buy and get this swap going... ... .

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:41 pm

Darkwing wrote: Unless i fit in a hydrolic clutch assembly RIGHT!?! ummm i think i get that already...

i get the difference in bellhousing because of the cable and hydro difference.

Well.....

It isn't that simple.

I understand that Chrysler made some changes to the firewall on the 2001-2005 Neons, to use the hydraulic clutch.

To run a 2001-2005 clutch pedal assembly (and hydraulic-assisted clutch) on a 2000 Neon, will require some modification and 'rework' to the firewall.
I have heard of people doing this ^ successfully, but you'll need some *fabrication* skills.

To keep it simple, and "bolt-on", try to find a 2000 Model Year pedal assembly, and then you can run any 1995-2005 MTX, once you get the correct (non-hydraulic) bellhousing.

- Nick

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:57 pm

NickKo wrote: To keep it simple, and "bolt-on", try to find a 2000 Model Year pedal assembly, and then you can run any 1995-2005 MTX, once you get the correct (non-hydraulic) bellhousing.

- Nick

Yup getting the pedals and shifter from srt-coupe if he ever replies back

ha ha

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:52 pm

One thing with swapping bell housings: The differential bearings may need re shimmed for proper preload. You don't want to wipe out your gears. A replacement MTX is far cheaper than gears.

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:54 pm

ok..... im trying to buy a clutch cable.. every parts store i go to says a 2000 neon is hydrolic. so what part number or what year should i use to convince them a 2000 gots a cable

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:06 am

Darkwing wrote:ok..... im trying to buy a clutch cable.. every parts store i go to says a 2000 neon is hydrolic. so what part number or what year should i use to convince them a 2000 gots a cable

Stop going to parts stores. Most don't know what the hell they are talking about. You may have to go to a dealer for this one. Since that cable was a one year only part, I don't think you will have much luck finding one.

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:24 am

i know what you mean i work with parts stores a lot in my profession and i usually wait till i checked every other resource before going to the dealer i got the OEM part number from the search button... i was hoping there would be a junkyard piece but the only one i found was a cut one..

so i went new clutch kit (pt cruiser). i got my pedal assembly ,shifter and shifter cables/w boogers and the transmission ive already started rebuilding.. only thing is that cable!! oh well time to call the stealership

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:56 am

can i use a 95-99 cable? does anyone know?

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:31 pm

Just doing a quick look up, the only two vehicles that come up are a '00 neon, and an '01 PT Cruiser for that pn. 4668999AC