05 neon sxt auto. fuel filter location.

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05 neon sxt auto. fuel filter location.

Post by nicks sxt » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:06 pm

Hey guys, new to the site. Need some help on the location of the fuel filter / regulator. Also maybe a pic if possible. Thanks.

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Post by Swordfish2Cowboy » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:46 pm

It's inside the tank.
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Post by fixitmattman » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:42 pm

Fuel filter is integral to the fuel pressure regulator, not inside the tank. It's about $45-60 for a new one and takes 15min to change.
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Post by Canada » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:08 pm

fixitmattman wrote:Fuel filter is integral to the fuel pressure regulator, not inside the tank. It's about $45-60 for a new one and takes 15min to change.
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Post by occasional demons » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:02 am

The FPR/filter is located on top of the fuel pump module, on the outside of the tank. Towards the front of the car; To be more specific.

Unplug the fuel pump relay in the PDC under the hood, and run the engine, to relieve the pressure.
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Post by r/tguy02 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:18 am

Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:It's inside the tank.
only 95-96 was in tank
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Post by nicks sxt » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:26 pm

Hey thanks guys. Gonna take me a few days but I will get to it.

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Post by nicks sxt » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:16 pm

Ok, two parts stores told me that the filter was part of the pump. Is there a site to buy what I need?

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Post by Hudson_Neon » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:31 pm

both parts stores are wrong. it's part of the regulator...

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FUEL FILTER DESCRIPTION - FUEL FILTER/FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
A combination fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator
is used on all gas powered engines. It is located
on the top of the fuel pump module.
It contains a diaphragm, calibrated springs and a
fuel return valve. The internal fuel filter is also part
of the assembly (Fig. 1).
OPERATION - FUEL FILTER/FUEL PRESSURE
REGULATOR
Fuel Pressure Regulator Operation: The pressure
regulator is a mechanical device that is calibrated
to maintain fuel system operating pressure of
approximately 400 kPa ±34 kPa (58 psi ±5 psi.) at
the fuel injectors.
Fuel is supplied to the filter/regulator by the electric
fuel pump through an

REMOVAL
WARNING: THE FUEL SYSTEM IS UNDER A CONSTANT
PRESSURE, EVEN WITH ENGINE OFF.
BEFORE SERVICING THE FUEL FILTER/FUEL
PRESSURE REGULATOR, THE FUEL SYSTEM
PRESSURE MUST BE RELEASED.
(1) Refer to Fuel System Pressure Release in the
Fuel Delivery System section of this group. The fuel
filter/fuel pressure regulator is located on the top of
fuel pump module. Fuel pump module removal is not
necessary.
(2) Raise vehicle on hoist.
(3) Disconnect fuel supply line at the Filter/Regulator
nipple (refer to Quick Connect Fittings in this
section).

INSTALLATION
Lightly lubricate the O-rings with engine oil.
(1) Insert Filter/Regulator into the opening in the
fuel pump module, align the two hold down tabs with
the flange.
(2) While applying downward pressure, rotate the
Filter/Regulator clockwise until the the spring tab
engages the locating slot (Fig. 3).
(3) Connect the fuel line to the Filter/Regulator.
(4) Lower vehicle from hoist.

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Post by nicks sxt » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:34 pm

That really helps, thanks a lot!

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Post by Mopar00Neon » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:41 pm

r/tguy02 wrote:
Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:It's inside the tank.
only 95-96 was in tank
Negative.

95s and early 96s (steel tank cars) had an actual filter outside the tank, inline. It was mounted right around where the rear trailing arms attach to the body of the car.
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Post by vielecustoms » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:26 am

my 95 and 96 had an external filter. the 99 has the regulator / filter.

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Post by nicks sxt » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:10 pm

All right guys, got a new problem. 05 Neon sxt auto. In order to get the car to start when the engine is cold I have to push the pedal to the floor. Now between that time and the time the engine warms up, if I take my foot off the throttle the car dies. After it reaches running temp, it wil idle on it"s own. No codes, full tank of gas, but still sounds like a fuel problem to me. Any ideas.
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Post by darthroush » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:48 pm

I should change mine...summer project.

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Post by Swordfish2Cowboy » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:19 pm

I thought all that stuff was wedged inside the tank, though.... Hm. Guess I'll keep my mouth shut.
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Post by darthroush » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:18 pm

That was always my understanding too, but if it is on the outside, I'll be changing it...after the solenoid pack and front brake pads and calipers.

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Post by occasional demons » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:21 pm

Some of the old FSM figures mistakenly illustrated it as internal. I fell for the same thing a long while back. Don't feel too bad. :lol:
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Post by esteinmaier » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:14 pm

It's a 2-part system. The sock at the inlet of the canister is the high-micron filter, and the one in the regulator is the low-micron filter.
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Post by OB » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:30 pm

nicks sxt wrote:All right guys, got a new problem. 05 Neon sxt auto. In order to get the car to start when the engine is cold I have to push the pedal to the floor. Now between that time and the time the engine warms up, if I take my foot off the throttle the car dies. After it reaches running temp, it wil idle on it"s own. No codes, full tank of gas, but still sounds like a fuel problem to me. Any ideas.
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This seems to be a widespread problem, particularly with 05 cars. Intermittent IAC failure. Not much of a fix, aside from replacing it. Mine does it so rarely that I just keep to the 'tapping it with a hammer' method discussed in the above thread. I've even gone as far as to drive it and assume idling duties with my right foot. It always goes away once I go through the gears a couple times.
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Post by nicks sxt » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:27 pm

Well, see that's fine for me too. The problem lies with it being the wifes car. Would'nt ya figure, no problems till it's paid off.

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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:35 pm

The fuel filter/regulator is not a maintenance item. We have yet to have a 2000 come into the shop needing one let alone a 2005. Since most tanks are plastic now the reliability of the filter is very high. If you are having fuel delivery issues I would check else where Vs the filter/regulator.

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Post by occasional demons » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:08 pm

I would remove and clean the IAC with carb cleaner if carboned up or dirty, then lube it with some penetrating oil and re install. You could plug it in while off the TB, and key on. It should go to wide open, or at least have the pintle off the seat. If it does not move, then a new one is required. Look to spend about $100ish.
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Post by esteinmaier » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:17 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:The fuel filter/regulator is not a maintenance item. We have yet to have a 2000 come into the shop needing one let alone a 2005. Since most tanks are plastic now the reliability of the filter is very high. If you are having fuel delivery issues I would check else where Vs the filter/regulator.
Agreed. Even when cleaning the gas varnish out of the tank with some e85, it just darkens the sock.
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Post by jdusty914 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:57 pm

Hey nick, try turning your key four times in a row from off to acc (right before start). I found out that if you do this it will lock out your gas somehow. I had this happen and did the four times and everything went back to normal. Just a suggestion.

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Post by lgmn69 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:01 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:The fuel filter/regulator is not a maintenance item. We have yet to have a 2000 come into the shop needing one let alone a 2005. Since most tanks are plastic now the reliability of the filter is very high. If you are having fuel delivery issues I would check else where Vs the filter/regulator.
i was about to replace the regulator until i read this, my problem is the check engine light comes on and the car starts bucking. my first thought is cheapest part first thinking the fuel filter before i found this thread, now i'm not so sure I should replace it after what you said seems how its about $100 ..... any input would be helpful

btw, if i shut the car off for a few minutes it seems to stop bucking but the light stays on... or if i keep it under 2k rpms it doesn't buck

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Post by C1DoG » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:12 pm

Check your injectors and see if any are plugged. Could be part of the problem.
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Post by occasional demons » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:30 pm

Key to on three times, leaving it on the third time. The odometer will show you the fault codes. Then go to the sticky in the engine section, and see what they mean, or post them here.

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Post by lgmn69 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:52 pm

got 2 codes from doing this

P0344 Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Intermittent

then

P0340 Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor Circuit

so i'm guessing its a sensor that needs to be replaced?

oh and thanks for the info i didn't realize i could do that :tardbang:

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Post by occasional demons » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:15 pm

Yep, pretty safe bet the sensor is bad.

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oh and thanks for the info i didn't realize i could do that
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Post by lgmn69 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:16 pm

awsome thanks for all the help i like $25 alot better than $100 LOL

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