Hid look alike bulbs

vi_ryder · Post by **vi_ryder** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:06 pm

I'm thinking about upgrading my headlight bulbs and i was wondering whats the best way to have the color of hids without spending all that money on Hid set up? I like the blue lights but which would go better with my silver ps2 neon, yellow, purple or blue? i be have seen some people have some really bright blue that be blinding you, i dont want those. I want something that is going to allow me to see still when it has bad weather. Most importantly i heard some of them fry your wiring harness and etc... which ones do that? I heard of nakyo, xeno-match, eurodezigns, and coolblues are they actually blue?

blueneo03 · Post by **blueneo03** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:13 pm

the cool blue ones a friend of mine had and they were blue but had shitty output compared to my sylvania silverstars.... if you want to look like you have hids get some but the ones that look like it suck... ask me how i know... get some silverstars they wont fry anything and they will improve stock visibility... but dont waste your money on the shitty blue ones..

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:15 pm

i can relate to blueneo03..

i've got the cool blue headlights, and in all honesty they just look
white.. they're really not even that much brighter than my stock
bulbs. i say if you're going to get some bulbs, go with the silverstars.

gtxtreme19 · Post by **gtxtreme19** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:17 pm

Silverstar or silverstar ultras.... they're expensive but they are good.

alsey_seven · Post by **alsey_seven** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:21 pm

the cost of silevrlight might as well get hid some Bi can be found for 60

logikfive · Post by **logikfive** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:38 pm

A decent HID setup from DDMTuning will run you SLIGHTLY more than a set of SilverStars and have 3x the output. Last time I looked Silverstars were about $45 a pair for the bulbs. I think DDM charges $60 plus shipping (if you go bixenon -- which is also a wise choice as it includes the relay harness by default)

If you ask me it's a no brainer to go with HID. You'll likely get a bunch of replies about how it's so bad to put them in stock housings though...

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:47 pm

logikfive wrote:
If you ask me it's a no brainer to go with HID. You'll likely get a bunch of replies about how it's so bad to put them in stock housings though...

That's because ppl like me will hit you head on, to reduce the annying glare.

logikfive · Post by **logikfive** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:55 pm

occasional demons wrote:That's because ppl like me will hit you head on, to reduce the annying glare.

Is that like the moth to the bug zapper? I dunno about you but if I see a bright light coming at me I don't think I'd try and drive towards it...

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:11 am

logikfive wrote:
occasional demons wrote:That's because ppl like me will hit you head on, to reduce the annying glare.
Is that like the moth to the bug zapper? I dunno about you but if I see a bright light coming at me I don't think I'd try and drive towards it...

If you want to get real psychological, people tend to drive where they're looking, and light, no matter how bright, tends to attract the human eye when in complete darkness. So in theory, yes, we are just like moths to a bug zapper.

Every time I see someone driving around with HID bulbs in stock housings I feel the sudden urge to punch them in the face.

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:08 pm

I'm guessing you won't fry your harness with the correct connection i.e. quality relay harness get power directly from the battery. For halogen the brightest one I've experienced is the Ultra and Silverstar. If you want to get HID, vvme.com is a good place to go with. However, ebay works too, if you are in good luck.

BTW if you use some high output halogen (more than 35W?) then your harness will probably be fried iirc.

stdlystdmufn · Post by **stdlystdmufn** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:27 pm

gtxtreme19 wrote:Silverstar or silverstar ultras.... they're expensive but they are good.

i love mine got em 5 years ago and theyre still going strong

Johny · Post by **Johny** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:26 pm

JeffM wrote:
logikfive wrote:
occasional demons wrote: Every time I see someone driving around with HID bulbs in stock housings I feel the sudden urge to punch them in the face.

mmm, love 90% of the civics around here with those

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:16 am

same here with the VW Golf and the big stock headlights. Feeling like you would look into a stadium floodlight...

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:54 am

Mmm speaking of vw headlights... Those GLI\GTI headlights are friggin sweet when they light up.. They look like they pop and then they self adjust. Hawt.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:29 am

iThane wrote:Mmm speaking of vw headlights... Those GLI\GTI headlights are friggin sweet when they light up.. They look like they pop and then they self adjust. Hawt.

You're talking about completely different lights than what Jenni was suggesting. Jenni is talking about the square halogen lights that always fogged up and looked like shit. You're talking about the xenon self-adjusting lights that are MEANT for xenon.

I had the self-adjusting ones on my Audi. They were sweet for awhile, until the adjustment motor died and made them useless.

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:51 am

i have some adjustment motors from such d1s headlights lying around

and yes OFF COURSE i mean those old VW headlights...

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:44 am

JeffM wrote: You're talking about completely different lights than what Jenni was suggesting. Jenni is talking about the square halogen lights that always fogged up and looked like shit. You're talking about the xenon self-adjusting lights that are MEANT for xenon.

I had the self-adjusting ones on my Audi. They were sweet for awhile, until the adjustment motor died and made them useless.

sorry, I just ment vw in general. we had bi-xenon lights (or xenon? ... Whats the difference between the two?? Lol) in our svt focus and everyone bitched about how they were so bright to oncoming traffic. as soon as I win the lottery, I want crystal to hook me up with some legit headlights

vi_ryder · Post by **vi_ryder** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:17 pm

Thanks you guys. If i do buy the DDM Tuning hid kit which to get for my stock headlights DDM HID Kit Slim Ballast (35W or 55W) wat wattage buld type to get and Do i need the hid harness, Error Eliminator and Adaptor cables? Also i just seen halo projectors for like $97 what will need?

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:25 am

iThane wrote:...we had bi-xenon lights (or xenon? ... Whats the difference between the two?? Lol)...

xenon = the hid system

single xenon = one lense for low beam or high beam ONLY. in those headlights you have 2 lenses / side (or xenon for low beam and H7 reflector or such for the high beam)

bi-xenon = one bulb in one lense (each side of course) for low AND high beam. in low beam a deflector blocks upper half of the light output to get a correct light/dark boundary. in high beam the deflector moves away (aka high beam solenoid) and you have the full light output
Pro: takes less place in the headlight, only one bulb needed, no delay when you switch to highbeam

you may think now "why blocks the deflector the lower half of the light?" - but you should mind that the lense turns the light output upside down...

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:59 pm

And hid kits don't have high/low beam, correct?

I can't say which we had though because we sold the car when I was only 13/14
years old. The one time I "drove" the car wasn't intentional.. My dad asked me
to go warm up the car and when I released the clutch I didn't know the car was
in gear, causing me to leach forward and rear end our f150..

Dammit Man! · Post by **Dammit Man!** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:05 pm

iThane wrote:And hid kits don't have high/low beam, correct?

As for two filaments like incandescent bulbs, no. The low/high works like Jenni explained with the reflectors.

bi-xenon = one bulb in one lens

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:41 pm

Oh, duh lol. Eventually I plan on getting upgraded headlamps so I might as well educate myself before I shop. Say I get bi-xenon lights, does it hurt to switch the brights on and off often? Because I remember reading that turning the lights on and off often can shorten the life of the bulb. Do both high and low beam light stay laminated while the plate just slides back and fourth?

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:16 am

like i wrote: switching to high-beam only moves the deflector. light stays on...

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:46 pm

And yes it is bad for the bulb to be turned on/off/on. If it has had time to cool, as in stopping at the store for a few minutes, that isn't so bad. But say flashing the lights off and back on, not so good. The ballast doesn't know the lamp is already set to go, so it sends the high voltage to it again to ignite it.