Cam question

nabster33 · Post by **nabster33** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:02 am

So I was thinking about putting new cams in my srt and was looking for some feedback on if it is worth it. Would I gain enough to make it worth while. I have a custom dsp tune at 19psi with stg2 inj. 3in turbo back 3in cia 3bar map and tip larger tb. I would like to try and build a little more power without going bigger turbo just yet. I'm getting a better intercooler and hard pipes this summer. If i did get cams do i need new cam gears as well? any imput would be helpful

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:57 am

nabster33 wrote:So I was thinking about putting new cams in my srt and was looking for some feedback on if it is worth it. Would I gain enough to make it worth while. I have a custom dsp tune at 19psi with stg2 inj. 3in turbo back 3in cia 3bar map and tip larger tb. I would like to try and build a little more power without going bigger turbo just yet. I'm getting a better intercooler and hard pipes this summer. If i did get cams do i need new cam gears as well? any imput would be helpful

Yes, you will gain some on top from bigger cams, although I don't think it's worth it. Do a naughtier turbo first.

nabster33 · Post by **nabster33** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:59 pm

i was just thinking for cost...cams doesn't cost me as much as a new turbo set up

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:16 pm

Yea, but the better value is definitely in the new turbo.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:31 pm

The real benefit of cams comes once you have had some head work done, along with port matching, larger T/B, ect.

nabster33 · Post by **nabster33** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:28 pm

thank you for the input. I think i started looking at the s251 turbo kit form agp. that or the delta 42 depends on money and what i want to do lol

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:09 pm

for something cheap for cams ive heard 2.0 cams help quite a bit on srt's and they can be had for ussually 80 and under on sale boards or a junkyard 2.0 cams (1gn 2.0 dohc motor) then use the rest for nastier turbo =D

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:53 pm

dont bother with an AGP kit..... Have erick build you a kit w/ a borg warner turbo... I myself have one of their new EFR series turbos ordered

bigger turbo will hands down give you much more power potential than cams.....and since you already have a 3-bar map and tip, you're good to go

Blivitt02 · Post by **Blivitt02** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:26 pm

Don't think about the total cost of a mod, try to think about it as a ratio of dollars per hp. A turbo kit will net you a lot more hp per dollar. Once you have a bigger turbo, your hp per dollar gets better and better for big cams, which makes it a very intelligent investment.

Follow me:

Assume you can gain 100 hp with a bigger turbo over stock (this is very rough estimate) wait for a group buy or build one yourself including enough fuel for 330-350 hp and you will have what, 1800, maybe 2 grand invested? so you are talking 18-20 bucks per hp.

Now without going big turbo, say you go with a crane 14/16, total investment with springs/retainers etc is 800+ (new parts) and you might gain 15 hp(?) at your power level? maybe 20 (??) so your dollar per hp is in the 40-60 dollar range depending on what you can pull out of it.

Now if you go big turbo, then add cams down the road and you pick up 40-50 hp, you drop your dollar per hp down to 16-20 range depending on how much you gain for your application. See what I'm sayin?

*Very rough numbers were used here, don't freak out on me if they arent accurate, they were used to make a point!

nabster33 · Post by **nabster33** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:29 pm

lol very good insight.. Thats a good way to look at everything

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