Mouthtrap972's SRT-4

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:46 am

Here is a quick rundown on this car....

Forged Internals...
Lots and Lots and Lots and Lots of Other Custom Mods

Here's the pics......

enjoy.

http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r26/ ... rap%20srt/

BoostinBen · Post by **BoostinBen** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:29 am

I've never seen an ignition setup like that before. Very well done. Looks like a well done project, too.

What are the specs on the motor?

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:59 am

wow. that thing is very bad ass! i am with ben that is a very unique ignition system on that!

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:24 am

I liked it from the moment I saw it was stripped and caged, but with all that other work - daaaaamn!

You must tell us of the benefits of the rear mounted intercooler (besides keeping it safer) and dual MSD coils.

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:31 am

I can gladly help with the ignition....

If you look through the pictures you will see that there are 2 different coil setups. This is because I had to learn about the capabilities of the drivers contained in an AEM Twin Fire.

There are only 2 outputs from the EMS and the Twin Fire drivers are only capable of driving a coil up to the size of the MSD Blaster SS Coils. The AEM drivers are weak and burn under no load what so ever. I actually contacted MSD who confirmed this.

Now I run the M&W Pro Drag 4 in the car without issue and it can power almost any coil. I have opted to run the MSD 8261 Coils as you can see.

I run the powerboost wires on there too, which I think is what makes it look so different. Really this is a normal but high end setup. If you decide to go COP keep the Twin Fire out of the equation! Just my .02$

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:33 am

Sooo do you race in USGT or have any plans to? Or is it a drag car?

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:48 am

UriahRR wrote:I liked it from the moment I saw it was stripped and caged, but with all that other work - daaaaamn!

You must tell us of the benefits of the rear mounted intercooler (besides keeping it safer) and dual MSD coils.

I opted for a closed (no cap) radiator system. Alot of my ideas come from the engineering I've seen from the formula 1 circuit and even nascar. This system allows me to raise the pressure up to 75lbs if needed thus raising the boiling point of the water. When I started building this car I did so thinking "I don't just want to be able to go 9's in a 1/4 mile.... I want to be able to run at full tilt for 24hrs!" That's where this system comes in.....

The radiator is a C&R core that runs to a C&R thermostat housing which also has the ability to connect to the hot lap cooldown unit. Since there is no cap, an Air Spring takes its place which is the canister you see. This is where you adjust the pressure. I add coloring to distilled water so I can see if the valve pops off to the overflow. I will go into more detail at a later time since these systems are better seen to understand.

I moved the setup to the back to distribute weight. Also, the ducting draws from under the car and exits the rear for better cooling as well. (I don't have all the sheet metal shrouding in place in the pictures.)

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:16 pm

Most Neons and SRT-4s do not really spark my interest anymore. They're all the same for the most part.... but this one... the attention to detail and custom work makes it awesome.

Incredible work.... keep it up

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:56 pm

I

race cars....

You sir, probably have the nicest car on here now IMO, coming from a race enthusiast more than a show car enthusiast.

FTMFW

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:08 pm

Thank you all! I appreciate the support.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:09 pm

i helped a bit in the beggining stages of this build but sean took this thing to a whole new level that has not ben explored before. This car is a freakin beast.

OB · Post by OB » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:22 pm

moutthrap972 wrote:
UriahRR wrote:I liked it from the moment I saw it was stripped and caged, but with all that other work - daaaaamn!

You must tell us of the benefits of the rear mounted intercooler (besides keeping it safer) and dual MSD coils.
I opted for a closed (no cap) radiator system. Alot of my ideas come from the engineering I've seen from the formula 1 circuit and even nascar. This system allows me to raise the pressure up to 50lbs if needed thus keeping the temperature anywhere I choose.

How does raising the cooling system pressure change coolant temperature? The idea behind pressurizing the system is to prevent boiling, because the boiling point of water goes up with pressure. Cooling is controlled by the radiator's ability to flow, and by the cooling fan(s). Please explain. Also, wouldn't pressures that high cause hose and or seal failure? Or is your cooling setup somehow designed to withstand 50psi?

Interested in how all this comes together, very cool build!

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:39 pm

Your physics are correct and rhetorical.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:45 pm

amazing project, not conforming to the norm.

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:00 pm

pictures do no justice, you gotta see this beast in person.. the BOV is
something i've never seen before too lol.

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Steed Speed out of Canada is responsible for that work of art.

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:22 pm

share with us this work of art

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:49 pm

here you go its the couppler looking like thing on the ic piping

haseebgill12 · Post by **haseebgill12** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:55 pm

OH SHIT! WTF! that looks sweeeet man, much respect. Love how this car is unique in so many aspects.

P.S is that a custom TB?

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:12 pm

It's a 90mm Accufab TB w/ the Vibrant VanJen Clamp welded on. I used the VanJen clamps so that everything is quick connect.

The Steed Speed BOV works great! It really helps by allowing me to break everything down and clean or adjust whatever I need.

BoostinBen · Post by **BoostinBen** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:36 pm

Glad to see the scatter shield

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:16 pm

Engine Internals:

Arias Custom Pistons w/ Top Fuel Coating
GRP Aluminum Rods
Lightweight Forged Crank w/ windage Mods
Custom Pickup, Pan Baffles, and Windage Tray
Full Race Port Head w/ oversize valves and the works
Fidanza Adjustable Gears
Custom Crane Cams
Oil Restrictor
ARP Cam Cap Studs
ARP Head Studs
ARP Crank Studs

Exhaust Side:

RT Ernie Tubular Exhaust Manifold
Tial MVS Wastegate
Dump Tube vents to atmosphere
Custom Garrett CDBB Turbo w/ Billet Frame and Wheel ~90lbs/hr
3" Downpipe w/ Flexor to Aluminum Dual Exit Exhaust
Custom Turbo Heatshield

Intake Side:

Custom 6.1 Cubic Litre Intake
Accufab 90mm TB
Steed Speed 3" Inline BOV
3" Aluminum Piping w. Vibrant VanJen Clamps
4" Core Intercooler
Custom Catch Cans

Pedal Power:

Tilton Individual Res. Pedal Assembly
Line lock incorporated to Bride Wheel
Willwood Adjustable Proportioning Valve
Residual Valves
Full SS Brake Lines w/ Goodridge SS Flex Lines
ARP Wheel Studs

Auto Trans:

31TH w/ ALTO Red Eagle Internals
Cheetah Reverse Manual Valve Body
Custom Differential and Carrier Bearings
Hardened Gears w/ custom ratio and final drive
300M 904 Input Shaft
If I knew I'd tell you on what my guy does to the rest..... haha

Opal Converter Built Locally By Abraham at IDC

5 Speed Transmission:

Fidanza Flywheel
Quarter Master Twin Disk
LSD
Hardened Gears
Custom Push Type Slave Cylinder

Cooling System:

C&R 4x20x30 Radiator
C&R Thermostat w/ Jiffy Tite quick connects for cool down unit
C&R Pressure Can
Kepner Valve
SPAL Twin 14" Fans

Fuel System:

Walbro 340 Intank
Barry Grant King Sumo External
ID2000 Injectors
Custom Rail w/ Aeromotive RRFRP
10 Gal Fuel Safe Fuel Cell

Electronics:

AEM EMS
M&W ProDrag 4
MSD 8261 Individual Coils
AutoMeter Gauges Oil, Fuel, Coolant
AEM Gauge Type Wideband
Greddy Profec B Spec II Boost Controller

Other Items:

Tubular, Heim Style Control Arms w/ Screw in Ball Joints
Weld washers on K-Member and reinforcements make this setup very rigid and help to plant the power.

Megan Raing Coilovers

Cage is for 8.50 spec. able to convert to SFI 25x spec.

Nitto NTO1 245/50/16 97W's on the Rear
Mickey Thompson ET Street 255/50/16's on the Front
All wrapped around some stock ACR rims.

Carbon by Design PVO spoiler molded rear carbon fiber deck lid

There's probably some things I can't think of but that's all I've got for now.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:16 am

That's great! Reminds me of my own project in so many ways!

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:59 am

I have a completely different setup that will eat this up!

This is my "street legal" car.

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:27 pm

AEM products

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:03 pm

I think you're the guy that I was told to call about MS. Feel free to yell at me for more info anytime.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:34 pm

yeah erick this is the guy i called you about thats why pmd you a link to his P/L

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:37 pm

It all makes sense now... Pretty killer build. It's funny because 5 years ago when I was starting to play with MS, the AEM was the step up. Now, MS has come so far so fast that you're now stepping up from AEM to MS.

But yea, sell the AEM and we can get you an awesome MS set up and you'll probably have change left over.

Mouthtrap972 · Post by **Mouthtrap972** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:23 am

I'm going to entertain this AEM system and it's antics one last time. If I can't get the car to a point of satisfaction then we will certainly go this route.

If I sent a wiring harness to replicate could that be done so that the MS is truly plug and play when it gets here?

The sensors in the car now are:

AEM 3.5 BAR
AGP Screw In IAT
Stock SRT Ambient
Coolant Sensor to be supplied with Kit
Stock SRT Crank Trigger and Cam Sensor
Mustang 5.0 TPS
No IAC

This is not a piggy back setup as I have it now so it's wired pretty much the same as the MS with the exception of the extra Relay. The voltage regulator is in place as well.

PM me with pricing and details.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:07 pm

yeah erick the other build we are going to put together is going to blow this one out of the water

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Mouthtrap972's SRT-4

Mouthtrap972's SRT-4

My ignition setup.

Build Sheet

Erick, lets talk MS