Automatic Power Mirrors

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:04 pm

I've got the power mirrors on my 2001 R/T and im such a lazy person that it's becoming annoying to fold them in when i park up and out again when i get in the car.

i dont wanna leave them out all the time ... coz ... well i like putting them in.

so my question is ... is there any way to wire the mirrors to fold out automatically when the ignition is turned on and fold in again when turned off ?

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:09 pm

haha - no one here has them. they were only an option in the UK. So you will get no answer.
You can make some relais circuits for that!

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:34 pm

really - if i would know how the switch is connected i could draw you a sheme for a relais that replaces the switch and moves them automatically.
could be interesting for someone here who bought those mirrors - but the switch bezel is only availlable for RHD.
Hmmm, maybe i will have a look in the service manual later...

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:34 pm

So this is very similar to the switch in my neon so you turn it one way for in and one way for out.

i think what i need is a circuit that switches one output on when power is applied and turns a different circuit on when there is no power.

but also it would be good to use the switch for manual override incase of problem

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:28 pm

no one ... ? Oh no, one has (in the box for years now - but hey).

The wiring is included in the main diagramma as well

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:28 pm

Damn you Europeans and your folding mirrors!

Johny · Post by **Johny** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:37 pm

JeffM wrote:Damn you Europeans and your folding mirrors!

yeah they get all the cool toys

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:10 am

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Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:29 am

not Europe = only that small island called "UK"

Pablodragon · Post by **Pablodragon** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:26 pm

still don't get it...
why the heck would you fold in mirrors when u park?

no one does that here, is it that messed up of a country that someone will smash or break them?... or people crash into them or break them off or something?...please explain...

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:45 am

^^Eh, who knows? I just want to be able to make them **insert mechanical noise here** because I can.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:59 am

Pablodragon wrote:still don't get it...
why the heck would you fold in mirrors when u park?

no one does that here, is it that messed up of a country that someone will smash or break them?... or people crash into them or break them off or something?...please explain...

Are u serious? You must live in the boonies...... I lived in the city and most of my friends still do and if you don't fold your mirror in when you park someone will gladly rip it off trying to parallel park or just drive by on the narrow street. So if you lose a mirror here you deserve it because you should know to fold it in

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:34 am

^ Exactly. Every time Ryan's visited he's always flipped his street-side mirror in and we're like WTF? Quick explanation and a trip to Chicago later, I understood.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:09 am

Plus it looks straight-up baller.

My Audi did it. Made me feel like I was engaging my landing gear.

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:59 am

If you want them to auto operate with the ign, you would need limit switches to kill to power to the motor once it is in either position. With the door switches, your finger is the limit switch, unless the button does not need to be held to move them.

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:34 pm

you sure?
@Gnuserup: Schaltet man auf anklappen/ausklappen oder sind das Taster?
Wichtig für mich zu wissen zwecks Elektronik!

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:51 pm

Pablodragon wrote:still don't get it...
why the heck would you fold in mirrors when u park?

no one does that here, is it that messed up of a country that someone will smash or break them?... or people crash into them or break them off or something?...please explain...

Have you ever left your town?

C1DoG · Post by **C1DoG** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:05 pm

Why do it electronically when you can manually do it yourself? To me is doesn't seem like that much more of a convienence.

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:30 pm

Jenni wrote:you sure?

If to me: It will need a way to shut power to the motor/or relay once it has folded/unfolded completely. Or it may damage the motor.

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:47 pm

sunroof motor can make that automatically - so why not the mirrors.
i know what you mean.
lets see what the guys with those mirrors say
are that switches or buttons?

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:24 pm

it is a switch.

so it clicks to in or out.

There must be a sensor inside to stop the motor when the mirrors have reached fully in / out. i think this is also true because when the mirrors are fully out and you fold one in manually, then when you turn the ignition on it will move it back to match the other mirror and the switch

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:50 am

JeffM wrote:Made me feel like I was engaging my landing gear.

This. Couldn't have explained it better myself.

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:11 am

if someone made this happen, they outta right a how-to. because if
its do-able, i'm so doing it... having the mirrors fold in and out
automatically would be legit. and because i'm moving to city life,
this would be perfect. especially since most the condos i'm looking at
have only 1 car garages that hardly fit enough room to even be able
to open the driver's door..

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:32 pm

I don't even live in a big city and mine have scratches that def aren't from me.

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:53 pm

nerox wrote: There must be a sensor inside to stop the motor when the mirrors have reached fully in / out. i

So the hard part is already done.

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:16 pm

occasional demons wrote:
nerox wrote: There must be a sensor inside to stop the motor when the mirrors have reached fully in / out. i
So the hard part is already done.

true ... i just need to design a circuit that does the switching for me

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:02 pm

pfff - that is just a simple relay (or 2). but i am too busy at the moment to have a look!

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:27 pm

i think i'll be able to do it with a normal 5-pin relay

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:12 pm

That should work.

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:49 am

so hows the project coming along?

here's some motivation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Qtr_gE ... ure=relmfu

i actually like the way the doors open on this car too. its like a lambo
door style but isn't quite so over kill ricer..