Metal valve cover compatibility

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:23 pm

What years metal valve covers work/fit a stock 01-02 SOHC?

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:35 pm

96 and up will bolt directly on. PCV plumbing is a bit different.

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:54 pm

Perfect! Now are all 01-02 standard SOHC Plastic? I believe the magnums are metal but, won't bolt to the standard SOHC head. But all 96-99 Are metal and will bolt up, is that right?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:07 pm

All 00-05 non-Magnum VCs are plastic. The 01-04 Magnum covers are metal and bolt right on.

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:09 pm

sweet guys thanks for the help. looking for one to powder coat, this helps a lot!

Post by **jonnymopar** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:45 pm

I got a 96 valve cover for my 03 when I went the powdercoated route. Still looks great after 5 years!

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:13 pm

That's why i would rather powder coat a metal valve cover then paint a plastic one. Plus thanks to this forum and NeonParabola I have someone I have confidence in for the powder coating. Good to know yours is still shiny. do you have pics? in fact if anyone has pics of a powder coated valve cover feel free to post at this point

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:06 am

Here is a pic of mine when I got it about 3 years ago. I got it used so I don't know how old it is, but I would say about 5 years.

And here is a pic from about a month ago...

Still looks great

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:31 am

Sexy!!!!! Exactly what I was thinking. I want to go a metallic blue. My neon is steel blue so great example dante.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:36 am

Sorry for the shitty picture:

I'll get a pic of it on the car. This was taken years ago, just before it was installed.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:28 pm

occasional demons wrote:96 and up will bolt directly on. PCV plumbing is a bit different.

Yes.

I will be 'upgrading' the 2000 Neon in our family, to the 1st-gen Neon valvecover.

- Nick

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:59 am

looking good

. Now, as far as pcv is concerned, do I need different boots for the lines, or are the nipples (giggle) the same size as our 2gn s? and I assume I would also need a new 1gn gasket as well?

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:23 am

D-Railed_Neon wrote:looking good . Now, as far as pcv is concerned, do I need different boots for the lines, or are the nipples (giggle) the same size as our 2gn s? and I assume I would also need a new 1gn gasket as well?

You'll need to switch to the 1st-gen PCV and hoses.

Keep in mind that the 1995 Neon valvecover is 'different'.
It's the one that has the coil pack mounted on a separate bracket.
The 1995 Neon had a different PCV system, so don't use that valvecover.

Anything 1996-1999 will work O.K. on a 2nd gen Neon - just change over the PCV system and you'll be set.

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:24 am

You either need a 1gn style PCV valve, and vacuum tubing, or a little creativity to use the 2gn PCV valve. (A 3/8 pipe to 3/8 barb adapter will do this)

Post by **jonnymopar** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:08 pm

Huh, I just remembered:

viewtopic.php?t=9787

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:25 pm

read. Thanks man, that gives some direction. So I need pcv lines from a 1gn or ghetto rig myself some new ones. and then does the valve cover have a gasket to speak of, and if so I need a 1gn one right?

Also....Thanks to you jonnymopar, and our friend esteinmaier I just got my jm shifter cradle bushings

These will go sweet with my maddog and boogers. so....

and stuff..

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:36 pm

D-Railed_Neon wrote: and the valve cover gasket need a 1gn one right?

jonnymopar wrote:
Also, for anyone's information, I looked up the gaskets for it and the 1gn gasket IS different than the 2gn. The 1gn gasket has loops that go around where the bolts come through and the 2gn just follows toward the inside of the bolts. Here's what I mean:

2gn: link has expired

1gn: link has expired

Adapter to use the 2gn PVC valve. This was more of a rough draft, compression fitting not really needed. Like I said, it can be a barb fitting to use rubber hose.

The benefit of locating it like this, is if you use a catch can, it is not under manifold vacuum. One less place for a vacuum leak. Plus it can be drained whether the engine is running or not.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:44 am

I'll see if I can find & post a picture of the 1st gen PCV hose system later, "for reference".

I'm sure I have a 'tech photo' from one of my 1st gen Neons, in my pile of pictures.....

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:19 am

In the link Jon provided, it has the 1gn valve similar to what the 1gn set up is, the 1gn valve is more underneath the IM tho. A little more of a PITA to get to.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:40 am

occasional demons wrote:In the link Jon provided, it has the 1gn valve similar to what the 1gn set up is, the 1gn valve is more underneath the IM tho. A little more of a PITA to get to.

A little bit more of a PITA to get to, yes, but worth it, IMO.

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:28 pm

I meant on the 1gn, the set up you pictured doesn't look too bad at all for access. (This is assuming the daughter's 1gn had the oem correct hoses, it was a good bit farther in.)

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:52 pm

Sorry but, n00bin out here for a second. Am I correct in the assumption that, the only benefit to using the 1gn PCV valve as opposed to a simple tube would be that, the pcv limits/stops oil from entering the intake manny? And if so, would a simple catch can solve that dilemma? Or am I missing/misunderstanding something about PCV valve operation?

chew* · Post by chew* » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:14 pm

D-Railed_Neon wrote:Sorry but, n00bin out here for a second. Am I correct in the assumption that, the only benefit to using the 1gn PCV valve as opposed to a simple tube would be that, the pcv limits/stops oil from entering the intake manny? And if so, would a simple catch can solve that dilemma? Or am I missing/misunderstanding something about PCV valve operation?

Benefits, metal cover that can be painted, less oil down intake but not a fix for the real issue which requires head removal to fix right.

D-Railed_Neon · Post by **D-Railed_Neon** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:24 pm

Uh what issue is that? I only plan on switching the VC for cosmetic reasons. No other need than to change the look of the middle of my engine compartment, and bring some bling to compliment my polished magnum IM