Pull motor or drop transaxle?

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Pull motor or drop transaxle?

Post by srimes » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:39 pm

Need a clutch and rear main seal. Which way is easier/better?

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Post by chipdogg » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:24 pm

Easier to drop the trans. Only have to remove axles, air box and stuff, battery and tray if you want, then trans comes out. To pull engine, more needs to be messed with.
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Post by occasional demons » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:47 pm

Agreed. Everything that is attached to the engine, is more work than pulling the axles. The potentially rusted exhaust hardware alone could be a bigger nightmare.
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Post by srimes » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:55 pm

Thanks guys. Is a hoist/cherry picker needed? Or just jack + stands?

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Post by thttxboy » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:21 pm

Jack and stands works fine. the legs on a cherry picker usually get in the way of things

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Post by srimes » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:27 pm

Sweet. I'll keep the $300 in labor the shop quoted and do it myself. Now to shop for a stratus 2.7 clutch! What's the best deal out there?

While I'm in there what else should I do? Diff pin clips?

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Post by occasional demons » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:07 pm

srimes wrote:
While I'm in there what else should I do? Diff pin clips?
What year is your car, or better, the MTX if not original? '04/'05 show the diff pin savers as factory installed in the FSM. They are part of the disassembly/assembly instructions. I can't say for '03, but it is possible they have them. My '01 did not.
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Post by srimes » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:30 pm

Well this just keeps getting better. It's an 04. 153k miles, and I assume it's the origional transaxle. PO said he had new struts put in after a minor accident, didn't mention transmission.

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Post by chipdogg » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:04 pm

I got my 2.7L clutch from Rockauto for like $260 shipped. Got the Sachs one. I only put maybe 40-50 miles on it tops, but that was a pretty brutal 40-50 miles. Drove it a few miles by my house, and by esteinmaier's, and then at least a dozen drag passes with slicks and a 2.4L n/a with crower stage 4's running low-mid 13's.
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Post by srimes » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:27 pm

I don't see the Sachs listed there. Checked 03, 04, and 01 und 2.7 and 2.7 flex. Where is it?

The accessory belts look worn so I took the opportunity to order the obx udp on ebay. In the many scattered posts I read on the 2.7 clutch one mentioned that it was lighter than the neon clutch. Is this true? Is there a safe way to lighten it a bit more? I'd like to make my motor rev a freely as practical.

I would like to swap in a 2.4. Sounds easy and economical so if anything expensive goes wrong with my 2.0 I'll do the swap. Also don't want to buy upgrades that won't transfer over.

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Post by chipdogg » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:07 am

Sachs pn: PC70131-01

$280 on RockAuto now. Maybe it was more than I remember, bought it last summer and installed it in October with the Quaiffe.
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Post by srimes » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:45 am

chipdogg wrote:Sachs pn: PC70131-01

$280 on RockAuto now. Maybe it was more than I remember, bought it last summer and installed it in October with the Quaiffe.
Thanks. Funny how they don't list it under the stratus 2.7

I found this part number listed on another thread: K70296-01
Found it on ebay for $235 shipped:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sachs-K70296-01 ... 2317dfc793


I couldn't get the clutch to slip yesterday. The few times that I have noticed it slipping it only slips a little a time or two and then it won't slip again. Makes me think it's getting just a little oil on it, and it burns it off and acts fine. Maybe I should wait until it gets worse before messing with it?

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