Neon Core Support - SRT vs. Non-SRT

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:30 pm

Hey everybody. I just bought an '04 SRT-4 that was wrecked in the front. It's going to need a new core support installed. I was wondering, if there is a difference between the SRT-4 and regular neon core supports. Would it be 2000-2005, or is there a difference between the 2003-2005 cars? Thanks. ANY information you guys can give me will be greatly appreciated. The car isn't even home yet; it's still in southern Pennsylvania. I'll be towing it home in 2 weeks, probably. Thanks again!

Justin

Adam G · Post by **Adam G** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:55 pm

03-05 I think have the holes for the intercooler...I know my 01 didnt

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:58 pm

Can anybody confirm this??

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:40 pm

Parts 9, 10, and 11 are different number for SRT-4s.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:43 pm

What is the difference?

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:46 pm

9 is "beefed" up and I assume 10 / 11 are drilled for the intercooler.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:47 pm

The lower suspension cross member is fine on mine. I'm just in need of inner body repair. The fenders and hood are fine too.

Number 6 on mine, is bent up pretty good.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:02 pm

"9" is hardly beefed up. There is a thread on the difference of the cross member.The only real difference is a threaded insert on the SRT cross member.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 pm

Well I don't need a suspension crossmember, so who cares here? lol

I'm just trying to figure out what core support parts I can use to repair my SRT-4. if 10 and 11 are different, only because of some holes for the IC piping, then I'll use a hole saw to create them. Doesn't look like I'm going to be able to find an SRT-4 getting parted out I can get one off of. I dont have any posts on SRTForums so I can't even view the FS section at all.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:14 pm

Just trying to keep the myths from spreading is all.

FWIW, you cannot get a complete core suport, you can only buy the individual parts. (from the dealer) Those closure panels are relatively easy to bend back into shape, provided the rest of it is in spec.

Number 6 will not be SRT specific. 10 and 11 are. The pic titansxt provided is as good as you will get, other than in the flesh photo's

As far as 6 goes, the bent part can be cut out, and a JY part welded on. As long as it is only bent at the front, and not back by the strut tower/cabin.

Edit:

While it doesn't look like it in that pic, the left enclosure and the frame rail were trashed in that corner. The body shop cut out the damaged frame rail, and merely bent the enclosure back in shape, They are very flimsy. The only new part needed to make it good was the upper tie bar. that was in 2007/40,000 miles ago, and so far nothing has happened structurally.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:30 pm

This is what my left closure panel looks like.

Front view of the car

Skirt that comes off the left upper frame rail (see the crease by the circle hole? Not normal, but the frame rail didn't move. The skirt is connected the support, when it compressed, the skirt pulled away from the rail at the weld and tore the metal very slightly, and kinked there. Appears to be no damage to the rail at all.)

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:33 pm

occasional demons wrote:"9" is hardly beefed up. There is a thread on the difference of the cross member.The only real difference is a threaded insert on the SRT cross member.

You do know the difference between; the panel is beefed up, and the panel is "beefed" up, right?

Consider " " air quotes. Air quotes are exaggerated emphasis on one word or a short sentence. I exaggerated the word beefed because the cradle has two or three minor tweaks. Non of which lead me to believe it is stronger then the base model support.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:39 pm

Well, regardless of matter, if I read the word beef, I immediately think of it meaning stronger, with or without quotations.

04R/T · Post by **04R/T** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:44 am

You can get a complete new core support, just not from Chrysler.

Search Neon Radiator Core Support on Ebay. I have not seen one personally, so I can't tell you how good they are, but they're out there. They fit Neon and it should be easy to modify them to fit the SRT IC.

Here's the modification done on a Neon to fit the SRT IC.. I found these pix somewhere a while back, I don't know who to credit them to.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:21 am

Yeah I did see the supports on eBay, but I was a bit skeptical of purchasing one. I was concerned about fitment and such, since it is an aftermarket piece, and quality isn't their #1 priority. haha. Price isn't too bad though. Looking through the available ones on ebay, they all have slight variances in design. One says it only fits 2000-2001, while another says 2000-2005. Something doesn't sound right.

00Neon2.0 · Post by **00Neon2.0** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:31 pm

Hey man check out this place i need a new front piece too for my 00 they should have one for srt LINK

there not expensive on shipping either

Edited for better page fitment.

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:41 pm

Cokedoctor wrote:Yeah I did see the supports on eBay, but I was a bit skeptical of purchasing one. I was concerned about fitment and such, since it is an aftermarket piece, and quality isn't their #1 priority. haha. Price isn't too bad though. Looking through the available ones on ebay, they all have slight variances in design. One says it only fits 2000-2001, while another says 2000-2005. Something doesn't sound right.

ANY 2gn core support will work. Including the frame rails. The frame rails and core support are not " beefed up" The only difference between say a standard sxt core support, and an srt core support, would be the holes for the intercooler, which can easily be cut out.
If you want more detailed pictures of how any of the core support, or frame rails are put together, check out my progress log.

-Cody

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:49 pm

00Neon2.0 wrote:Hey man check out this place i need a new front piece too for my 00 they should have one for srt LINK

there not expensive on shipping either

Edited for better page fitment.

I don't see a radiator core support listed.

XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:
Cokedoctor wrote:Yeah I did see the supports on eBay, but I was a bit skeptical of purchasing one. I was concerned about fitment and such, since it is an aftermarket piece, and quality isn't their #1 priority. haha. Price isn't too bad though. Looking through the available ones on ebay, they all have slight variances in design. One says it only fits 2000-2001, while another says 2000-2005. Something doesn't sound right.
ANY 2gn core support will work. Including the frame rails. The frame rails and core support are not " beefed up" The only difference between say a standard sxt core support, and an srt core support, would be the holes for the intercooler, which can easily be cut out.
If you want more detailed pictures of how any of the core support, or frame rails are put together, check out my progress log.

-Cody

I will definitely check that out!

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:59 pm

XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:ANY 2gn core support will work. Including the frame rails. The frame rails and core support are not " beefed up" The only difference between say a standard sxt core support, and an srt core support, would be the holes for the intercooler, which can easily be cut out.
If you want more detailed pictures of how any of the core support, or frame rails are put together, check out my progress log.

-Cody

Oh for #$%@s sake! Sorry I ever used my air quotes. And no one is talking about frame rails!

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:10 pm

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:20 am

I'd like to see a picture of an SRT-4 Core support, if anyone has one.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:05 pm

You may have to search through some PL's to find some shots without the fascia in place.

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:08 pm

00Neon2.0 · Post by **00Neon2.0** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:12 pm

Car parts wholesale is where im going

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:07 pm

I don't see a listing on their website.

carny2006 · Post by **carny2006** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:30 pm

idk, i could be guessing here buy it might be under radiator support

lol, not being mean, promise

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:43 pm

I looked at that site 3 different times....and not a single time did I see radiator support. Until now. I'm just getting old, wtf. lol

On CarPartsWholesale's website, they list the radiator support for $188.95 shipped.

On CarPartsWholesale's eBay store, they list the radiator support for $90.29 shipped.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

EDIT: It appears, the Ebay Store and the website are two different companies, yet they use the same name. Isn't that illegal??

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:47 pm

They only list it for a 2000 neon, which will fit, it just won't have the holes for the IC. But like said, cutting them is not a huge deal. It would be better/cleaner with an electric, or air powered nibbler...

http://www.carpartswholesale.com/v5/?N= ... or+support

FWIW, I searched using a 2004 neon, and it still reverted back to 2000.

I would just go with the ebay one, they are prolly both made at the same place anyways.

The logo is different, but the names are the same, It would only be illegal if one or the other had a copyright on the name.

Cokedoctor · Post by **Cokedoctor** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:08 pm

The website says Copyright at the bottom of the page. Thats why I asked lol

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:11 pm

It's only illegal, until you get caught?