Whole Brake System Diagram

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:45 pm

Can anyone please help and show me a diagram of the entire braking system on the neon, preferably including P/N's

Thanku

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:29 pm

Is there anything in particular you are looking for? The diagrams with PNs are 20 pages long for the brake system.

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:51 pm

basically how it works.

where it starts and ends and everything inbetween and what links upto where

im wanting to overhaul the whole system coz something is seriously screwed

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:09 pm

Fluid goes from the master cylinder through the brake lines to the caliper/wheel cylinder, which pushes out the piston(s) and pushes the pads/shoes onto the disc/drum and applies the brakes.

Here's a page from a quick Google search: http://www.familycar.com/brakes.htm

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:12 pm

Depending on just what is wrong, doesn't necessarily mean you need to replace everything. If you can determine what is wrong, just that part needs replaced. Then a total system flush with fresh fluid would be the best thing you can do for it.

For reference, does it have anti lock? I would assume it does, being an R/T and an export. But I might be mistaken.

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:26 am

occasional demons wrote:Depending on just what is wrong, doesn't necessarily mean you need to replace everything. If you can determine what is wrong, just that part needs replaced. Then a total system flush with fresh fluid would be the best thing you can do for it.

For reference, does it have anti lock? I would assume it does, being an R/T and an export. But I might be mistaken.

Here is the reported problem

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yeah it has ABS and rear discs

darthroush wrote:Fluid goes from the master cylinder through the brake lines to the caliper/wheel cylinder, which pushes out the piston(s) and pushes the pads/shoes onto the disc/drum and applies the brakes.

Here's a page from a quick Google search: http://www.familycar.com/brakes.htm

Thanks, i understand the basics but what about all the bits inbetween, brake booster, ABS unit, hydraulic lines etc ...

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:06 am

Well the lines simply carry the fluid, nothing more, nothing less. As for the other parts of the system, Googling how each part works will explain it. The diagram and P/Ns you are asking for won't answer any of that. It's just a picture with numbers on the difference parts; no explanation of how any of it works.

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:01 am

darthroush wrote:Well the lines simply carry the fluid, nothing more, nothing less. As for the other parts of the system, Googling how each part works will explain it. The diagram and P/Ns you are asking for won't answer any of that. It's just a picture with numbers on the difference parts; no explanation of how any of it works.

yeah i get that but i still dont know how it all links together and what lines go where etc.

need a circuit diagram sorta thing

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:25 am

Your best bet is to get your hands on a FSM (Factory Service Manual).

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:42 pm

nerox wrote:
darthroush wrote:Well the lines simply carry the fluid, nothing more, nothing less. As for the other parts of the system, Googling how each part works will explain it. The diagram and P/Ns you are asking for won't answer any of that. It's just a picture with numbers on the difference parts; no explanation of how any of it works.
yeah i get that but i still dont know how it all links together and what lines go where etc.

need a circuit diagram sorta thing

IIRC:

[Brake Pedal] --> [Brake Booster] --> [Master Cylinder] --> [Lines] --> [ABS Unit] --> [Lines] --> [Brake Caliper/Wheel Cylinder]

Even in the factory shop manual (as well as the parts manual I mentioned), there isn't an overall diagram, unless it isn't in the brake section. It's something you are going to have to search for online and it'll end up being a generic diagram.

*Hint: Go to Google images and type in "brake system diagram"*

nerox · Post by **nerox** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:51 pm

Thanks for your input.

it definately helps