H.I.D Relay Question

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:39 pm

I have finished installing my H.I.D kit from VVME & my question is the "relay harness" that comes with the vvme bi-xenon kit isnt the type of relay harness that should be installed correct? The one we should run with our kits is the one from theretrofitsource.com or a homemade one? The reason why i ask this is because my hi/lows do not work it just stays on low and i wanna correct this before i fry my multifunction switch.

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:57 pm

Anyone?

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:23 pm

?? The vvme harness should have a relay pack which will hook up to the battery and run your highs and lows...

Maybe if you throw up a picture of what you have I can help you a little bit better

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:23 am

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The relay does have a relay pack but dosent power the highs. I read on here we have to solder a diode between the high & low beam wire on the 9007 plug on the relay in order to power them, but i also read from lilsparkplug that she recommends we buy the relay from theretrofitsource becuase its a safer relay?

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:45 am

Ok so the kit you bought was just a single HID kit not the Bi-xenon one...

the wire coming off the Hid ballast plug is that a ground or a two pin plug??

I guess I should ask what bulbs did you get..and/or what headlights they are going in...

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:55 am

the bulb tag says 9007 H/L which means hi low right?

The wire coming off of the ballast plug is ground and the kit is a 35w 8000k and bi xenon i thought...
There also going into the stock housing headlights.... which is frowned upon i know lol.

skaterking411 · Post by **skaterking411** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:34 am

I'm pretty sure the relay harness I got from there was wrong and I ended up making my own

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:30 am

xXB00ST3DXx wrote:the bulb tag says 9007 H/L which means hi low right?

The wire coming off of the ballast plug is ground and the kit is a 35w 8000k and bi xenon i thought...
There also going into the stock housing headlights.... which is frowned upon i know lol.

I think I see where you got confused. The H/L means headlamp, not high/low. The signal pick-up for that harness is for a 9007 type connector, so you are OK there. You only have two 2 wire connectors for the HID ballasts there. If that were a high/low beam kit, it would have 2 more two prong connectors for the motorized shield that would raise up and give you your high beams. Since HID bulbs are "single filament", there is no way for them to get brighter than what they normally are. Since you are putting these into stock housings (and no, not a good idea at all!), you will lose high beams. This is a real problem if state inspections require the high beams to work.

So now you have a few options.

1...Go forward with your original plan and not have high beams and very piss-poor light focus. This won't cost you any more money or time.

2...Get yourself some Depo/TYC projector headlamps and different HID bulbs (they won't accept OE style bulbs) and you will have working non-HID highs to pass inspection. This will cost you a bit more money, but even the so-so projectors found in those lights is better than OE housings.

3...Do a retrofit on a set of Depo OE style headlamps with your choice of projectors and bulbs. While the most expensive option, it will give you the best performance and function.

Hope that helps you.

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:08 pm

Ok thanks alot danteneon. I'm gonna have to check again when I get home because I think they sent me a single beam kit instead of a bi-xenon that I wanted. Thanks again guys.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:19 pm

Taken from The Retrofit Source...

So if that is the type of bulb you are planning on using in your stock housings, you could achieve high beams (with the proper harness of course). You may be able to use your factory high beam signal wire to activate the motor as well, but I don't know if they require a constant flow of current, or if they just use a pulse. To be honest, I forgot these kind of bulbs were out there.

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:25 pm

my bulbs look exactly like the ones on the right of the picture and a motor does kick on when I flip the high beams on but it seems that there isn't enough power to move the bulb. So is possible they just sent me the wrong relay harness?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:31 pm

You mean the bulbs look like the center one? The two bulbs on the left are bi-xenon, the one on the right is a fixed D2S.

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:36 pm

Yes im sorry. looks like the center one. So the center one is a single beam bulb?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:49 pm

Nope, the center bulb is a motorized one. If you are hearing noise from it, it should be working. I don't know if your bulb requires power to move and then returns to it's normal position when power is taken away though.

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:57 pm

Ok, well I ordered a new relay from theretrofitsource i'll try that and see how it turns out. Thanks for the help.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:31 pm

Good deal. Let us know how it works out

xXB00ST3DXx · Post by **xXB00ST3DXx** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:22 am

Here's an update for those who are wondering:
I recieved the new relay from theretrofitsource and installed it. Still having the same problems. I know for sure now the bulbs are bi-xenon because when I wire just one bulb up the hi and lows work perfect but as soon as I wire up both bulbs only lows work. I'm going to wire up a diode between the high and low wires on the blue 9007 plug, if that dosent work I'm just gonna keep it the way it is.

03SXTGUY · Post by **03SXTGUY** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:31 pm

Just FYI for anyone else in the future with this same problem: I deal a lot with TRS (love them) - but on our 9007 vehicles, the bi-xenon wiring harness must be re-pinned where the harness connector fastens to your stock harness. The ground (black wire) will stay in the middle of the connector, and the blue and orange wires must be swapped as they are wired for 9006. Then, you will run the orange male connectors into your ballasts and the blue male connectors to your high beam solenoid.

Without doing it this way, you will continue to have your high beam indicator illuminated (on your dash) while your low beams are on. Yes, it will light brighter (indicator) when you swap the actual high beams on; but who wants to stare at the high beam indicator the entire time your lighting system is enabled? Not me

G'luck OP!

BAMueller · Post by **BAMueller** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:12 am

The relay that is pictured above is more than sufficient. I had that relay for about 3 years installed with my HID's i now skipped the relay and soldered right into the lights wires.

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Wed May 09, 2012 6:39 pm

you get the current now directly from the multiswitch?
await a burning dashboard...

03SXTGUY · Post by **03SXTGUY** » Thu May 10, 2012 1:44 am

^ x2. That is not good advice. OP, please use an approved relay wiring harness.