spark plugs... looks ok?

Pablodragon · Post by **Pablodragon** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:22 pm

Forgot how easy it is to change the plugs. Just make sure you've got a long tool.

... here's the old... went probably more than 40k miles...
does it say anything besides a bit worn out?

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:11 pm

Looks pretty normal to me.

Post by **Canada** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:42 am

What's that gapped at? Looks huge...

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:28 am

I'm guessing greater than 0.060" by a fair margin.

Pablodragon · Post by **Pablodragon** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:14 pm

well, since that is the one that came out of the car.... guess the electrode used to be longer... I'm suprised the car was running as well as it was with such a big gap...

Post by **Canada** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:09 pm

Probably get a decent increase in fuel economy now! I change plugs every other oil change. Car loves it and runs strong that way.

gcretro · Post by **gcretro** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:48 pm

I got the NGK V Power recommended here for the 2 gen ones put on. Whats their life?

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:47 pm

V powers suck on neons. Cheap old champion or autolite plugs for us work the best.

bobneon2k · Post by **bobneon2k** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:11 pm

what is the recommended gap for these sohc 2.0 engines anyway?

Post by **Canada** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:53 pm

0.035

All I use is the cheap Champion copper plugs and it runs perfect.

gcretro · Post by **gcretro** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:20 am

INVUJerry wrote:V powers suck on neons. Cheap old champion or autolite plugs for us work the best.

Oh wow!. I did search over a yr ago and was told Ngk V Power coppers are the oem spec and that they are great. They were pretty cheap too. I have put about 13K on them but tempted to change to see if they would at least partly cure my "low idle when stopped in drive" issue.

What's the exact name or part # of the champion copper plug?

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:20 pm

It should be on the emissions label under the hood. RY9C or something like that.

gcretro · Post by **gcretro** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:12 pm

occasional demons wrote:It should be on the emissions label under the hood. RY9C or something like that.

yep looked up champion webiste.
Champion Traditional spark plug RC9YC

Was champion the OE supplier? when 2gn neon roamed earth

gcretro · Post by **gcretro** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:41 pm

yep found the answer here.
http://www.allpar.com/neon/performance.html

Btw that page says:

"SOHC owners, you can add about 8-10hp from changing your muffler to a high-flow unit. Straight-though type mufflers work well for this application. This muffler design produces the best hp and torque numbers. It shouldn't cost more than $120-$140 installed."

Is that true?

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:29 pm

I doubt it. I didn't notice any real seat of the pants gain from running an open pipe/GP over the stock muffler. I noticed more of a gain from the 60mm TB.

8 to 10 hp in our cars would be very noticeable.

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:00 pm

I run the v powers, no issues but didnt last that long. I like the ngk iridiums. Havent tried the cheapo champions, might have to get those next

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:12 pm

Copper plugs are great, just don't expect to get 40 to 50,000 out of them at optimal performance. I think I got about 30,000 out of the set I used, and that was re gapping at 20,000.

I got 40,000+ out of a set of Bosch Platinum +4, (I changed them just to change them) and so far I have 20,000 + out of a set of Bosch Iriduim Fusions and they look good, considering I'm using more than a quart of oil per 700 miles. But then they have the "advantage" of low cylinder pressure at this point too.