sexy

NGCnoproblem · Post by **NGCnoproblem** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:34 am

Yes I'm going to build the bottom end next. And wat ill have wen all done is somethin I built. That's more important to me. The 2.0 has more potential then you give credit. Just gotta build it right.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:39 pm

I don't think anyone said the 2.0 doesn't have potential, just that the 2.4 has more.

NGCnoproblem · Post by **NGCnoproblem** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:50 pm

Well in the end its fwd so I'm only goin for so much power. I'm sure 2.4 can put out more in the end but I don't wanna push it that far anyway. My plan was to show ppl in my area that the 2.0 can b fast. Everyone already knows the SRTs 2.4 can b lol

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:56 pm

ThatKevin wrote: Can't buy an SRT4, insurance alone will rape me. It would still be more expensive, AND I wouldn't be able to sell my car for anything more than $2k, even then I'd be lucky.

It's $100 cheaper a year for me to insure my SRT than it was for my old 05 SXT lol

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:05 pm

My full-coverage SRT payments are the same as comprehensive on my old '01.

ThatKevin · Post by **ThatKevin** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:57 pm

sidepipe87 wrote:
ThatKevin wrote: Can't buy an SRT4, insurance alone will rape me. It would still be more expensive, AND I wouldn't be able to sell my car for anything more than $2k, even then I'd be lucky.
It's $100 cheaper a year for me to insure my SRT than it was for my old 05 SXT lol

RT: $350 a month, BASIC coverage, no collision
SRT4: $500 a month, BASIC coverage, no collision

$150 * 12 = $1800 extra a year

I'm a male, under 25, living in one of the most expensive areas for insurance.

I'm fucked.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:25 pm

$500/month for basic???

I pay $102/month for full coverage! You need to get the hell out of Ontario!

ThatKevin · Post by **ThatKevin** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:44 pm

JeffM wrote:$500/month for basic???

I pay $102/month for full coverage! You need to get the hell out of Ontario!

I just need to get out of the city

but jobs, school, home are all here so can't do much yet. Just work a shit ton and pay

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:18 pm

Wenuden wrote:I don't think anyone said the 2.0 doesn't have potential, just that the 2.4 has more.

I must respectfully disagree. With an equal bore but shorter stroke, the 2.0 while missing 20% displacement can safely rev more than 20% faster. And it's pretty well known that the rod caps tend to be the first to go from revving. As long as the valve train can keep up, which ours can, the 2.0L is debatably the better platform.

Now at the HP levels that cause things to fail that could never be anticipated or reproduced, the 2.4 is a more stout block at the bed plate, but those failures have only happened a handful of times and could be attributed to a lot more than which motor is better such as tuning, etc.

One advantage I like a lot is that the torque numbers are lower relative to the HP numbers on a 2.0, which breaks a lot less drivetrain parts, all else equal. So you don't need as much clutch, you don't need as much axle, and you don't need as much money to replace those things. The direct inverse however is that single disc clutches don't like to fully release up that high, giving you shifting problems up there unless you go with a smaller diameter twin. And in a 2.0, keeping the turbo spinning by shifting quickly is even more of a concern since you have less displacement to spin it back up after a shift.

NGCnoproblem · Post by **NGCnoproblem** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:24 pm

^this guy is why I went with a 2.0

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:42 pm

Cuz his is in his garage?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:47 pm

Mine runs... buzz off...

NGCnoproblem · Post by **NGCnoproblem** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:50 pm

And he's tuned enough of em to know wats up lol

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:09 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Mine runs... buzz off...

Yeah, in your garage.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:14 pm

OK, I'll tell you what. I'll run you in a month. If I lose or it doesn't work, I tune your cars forever for free. If I win, you build me a trans for free with a 3.94 and every trick in the book.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:51 pm

Well then I'm counting on it not being done!

Deal. 1 3.94 HD or free tuning forever!

When is "a month"? September 8th Neon race?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:29 pm

No, straight up a month. 9/23 or later.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:33 pm

Import Wars is September 23rd.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:35 pm

Sounds good to me!

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:20 pm

This thread just got some real sex to it.

NGCnoproblem · Post by **NGCnoproblem** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:27 am

Ohhhh buddy this is awesome

stdlystdmufn · Post by **stdlystdmufn** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:51 am

whats crazy is either way they win!!

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:11 am

stdlystdmufn wrote:whats crazy is either we they win!!

Damn right. A trans in his car is worth the risk if I may get free tuning for life! When his is together, I got no chance so I'm banking on it breaking (hope not) or its not done. But I wanna see it done, looked beautiful when I saw it last fall.

Good thing I have a few 3.94 hd's sitting here.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:17 am

esteinmaier wrote:OK, I'll tell you what. I'll run you in a month. If I lose or it doesn't work, I tune your cars forever for free. If I win, you build me a trans for free with a 3.94 and every trick in the book.

chipdogg wrote:Well then I'm counting on it not being done!

Deal. 1 3.94 HD or free tuning forever!

When is "a month"? September 8th Neon race?

esteinmaier wrote:No, straight up a month. 9/23 or later.

chipdogg wrote:Import Wars is September 23rd.

esteinmaier wrote:Sounds good to me!

I logged in just now to say one thing:

SHIT JUST GOT INTERESTING!!!!

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:48 am

NGCnoproblem · Post by **NGCnoproblem** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:56 am

Funny how this happened just from me saying I liked a white SRT I saw lol

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:00 am

Well, at least its a friendly bet. We have been drinking buddies for years.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:47 am

Back before Grrrtrude had MS. I remember spending hours debating on where to mount it, only to put it in the glovebox. Then we went to Menard's to get the adapters to put the GM coolant sensor in your heater hose. Got that in, fuck it. Time to drink!

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:57 am

Haha attitude hasn't changed much. That's why it hasn't see the road in so long.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:05 pm

Aaaaand, that's what I'm counting on!

Wanna come get drunk next weekend? I'll buy!