OMG, we are doomed.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:09 am

Midnight_Rider wrote: I just got a statement from the hospital with what I owe for my surgery and it looks like I'll be signing up for another loan for the next three years. I will admit to humbling myself and forwarding my 2011 W-2s to their billing department (at their suggestion) in case I might qualify for financial aid. Boy, am I stupid... maybe I should just quit my job and beg on the freeway.

Sorry for the rant- I'm just pretty p***** off right now.

When my cousin was out of work, he cut his leg somehow, it got a massive infection. The bill was $5000 +. He was like i have no way to pay that. Somehow, the guy put him through as a minority, and it was covered for most of it.

Maybe you should develop an accent.

The way I see it, if you have paid your taxes into the system, you should be able to get something back when you are down on your luck. Better than it going to those that have never paid a dime into it.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:01 am

occasional demons wrote:Maybe you should develop an accent.

Yeah, and be here illegally since it seems that they have our government bending over backwards for them.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:18 am

It's pretty simple. We say put money into the pot if you want to. Or if you don't, just pull some out. While that works in a penny tray at the gas station, it doesn't work so well when it's enough money to live on. Some will indulge, some will not. But the tray has been empty for a long time and it's being refilled off borrowed money. I say it's time that if you don't have the money, you don't get your coffee. Sorry you are tired.

Now don't take that as opponents have taken Romney's 47% comments. I realize that people taking the handouts will disagree with me. It's their free ride after all they are defending. I just think that if you need help for a good reason, we should help you, not make you dependent on our money.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:24 pm

occasional demons wrote:The way I see it, if you have paid your taxes into the system, you should be able to get something back when you are down on your luck. Better than it going to those that have never paid a dime into it.

The problem with that is, how much do you get out? Lots of people want to rely on social security when they get older and expect that they'll get $X, even if they maybe worked 5 years and barely paid into SS.

I saw a picture on facebook recently that said something like "What entitlements? I paid CASH for my social security insurance"

Just HOW MUCH cash? If you paid in $10k in your lifetime, how are you entitled to $20k/year?

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:08 pm

Social Security? What's that? I've been paying in since 1974 and I'll never see anything from it.

Sorry folks, maybe I shouldn't post until I get out of this negative mood.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:49 pm

Cheer up, in a week you'll beheading up this way!

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:04 pm

chipdogg wrote:Cheer up, in a week you'll beheading up this way!

You've got that right! $\:D/$

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:25 pm

Well IDK about you, but SS sends me a statement every year, as to "How much" a month I have earned.

More like "This is what you would have been getting, if we hadn't spent it for you".

So there should be no question as to what you might receive, for retirement anyways.

chipdogg · Post by **chipdogg** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:27 pm

How do you get that? Just curious, I'm planning as if I won't get SS. Of course I just raided my 401(k) but I'll post up why in 2 weeks.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:39 pm

I get that statement as well. I didn't do anything to get it, it just started showing up a few years ago.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:47 am

I too get one but I imagine that SS will be kaput before I will be old enough to collect (not that I'm ever going to retire- y'all will see me saying hello at the entrance of a Wal-Mart some day).