Toyota- still moving forward

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:35 am

http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/toyota ... -1.1224228
Remember, this is their top of the line brand, made in Japan.

Oh, by the way...

allpar.com wrote:The Toyota Camry (the top selling car in its class) and the Prius V wagon were given poor ratings in the newest test, and were the worst mid-sized performers; both cars were launched in 2012.

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20 ... -camry-bad

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:42 am

I dont' get all these floormat issues. Just put hooks on the floor like they did a decade ago with the neons

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iThane · Post by **iThane** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:24 pm

ragek23 wrote:I dont' get all these floormat issues. Just put hooks on the floor like they did a decade ago with the neons .

VW Charged us #30 for a floor mat hook

Teh fawk? it's just a piece of plastic with a turny knob

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:53 pm

Aside from the

of Toyota not thinking of floor mat hooks, the important point is a foreign company's habit of seemingly not cooperating with our federal government (or outright concealment of information). That's what gets my goat.

BigMac · Post by **BigMac** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:56 am

Do you know for a fact that the Lexus in question doesn't have floor mat hooks? I know for certain that Camrys have had them for many years, so I would guess that Lexus uses them too. I think the problem may be that if they break and the mat shifts, the gas pedal is too close to the floor when depressed. Too bad the article didn't link to any actual details about the recall.

For the record, Toyota denied that it failed to report the problem "in a timely manner".

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:05 am

If you like something lengthy to read while in the necessary room, here ya' go:

http://www.lexus.com/recall/

I bring this up mainly due to the fact that I hear people all of the time dimissing American-made cars as "junk," while anything foreign-made is superior without question.

BigMac · Post by **BigMac** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:27 am

Thanks. I don't usually take the laptop in there with me, but maybe I'll make an exception in this case.

I'm not a hater (or fanboy) of any particular brand, and I know that Toyota makes some damn good cars despite all the bad -- no, overhyped -- press it's received lately. My wife's '02 Camry with 134K on it has had exactly two repairs done to it in ten years -- a new gas cap and a dash-light bulb, and it still gets 32+ mpg on the highway. It's tough to argue with that kind of success.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:00 am

Likewise, my '95 Neon had just two things go wrong with it in eight years (the rear lap seat belts came from Belvidere installed upside down and the batttery went dead a few weeks after delivery). It was regularly getting 38-42 MPG at 121K miles when I traded it in for my '02 SXT. The common wisdom is to avoid buying new models until the bugs are worked out but this certainly wasn't my experience.

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:13 pm

And yet, the american people will be brain washed into thinking imports are FAR superior to domestics, even when the truth has been the exact opposite for the last 5 years......SMH

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:59 am

One of the most recent issues of Car and Driver listed the top five automakers for 2012 recalls and Toyota headed the list (the other four were foreign automakers as well). The article also listed the five 2012 vehicles with the smallest number of recalls and the domestically-produced (Canada) VW Routan made that list. Of course, we all know that the Routan is essentially a Chrysler Town and Country.