Is a fuel controller needed with crane 14?
Is a fuel controller needed with crane 14?
Hey guys i wanted to know if a fuel controller (s-afc, megasquirt, v-afc ,etc.) is need to use with a crane 14 cam... If it is what are the consiquences of not running one... Loss of power bad gass mileage? Thanx

2000 Dodge ES ATX
Spark CAI, Magnum intake manifold with working butterflies, zzapp 60mm tb, magnum header, gutted cat, bosal glasspack, srt axle back, RMVB (Reverse Manual Valve Body), flex-a-lite tranny cooler, and SRT springs.
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- tamadrumr88
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yes youll need something along the lines of a safc so youre not running to rich at idle. you can tune a little more out of the engine as-is but the safc is mainly to cut the fuel ~20% at idle as its too rich. the larger cam makes the engine think as though its under loud and so its adding to much fuel and over-compensating
if you dont tune the fuel your car will sound like this (towards the end of the film)
http://www.agitated.net/albums/album31/100_1706.mov
if you dont tune the fuel your car will sound like this (towards the end of the film)
http://www.agitated.net/albums/album31/100_1706.mov
but will it hurt the car n e?

2000 Dodge ES ATX
Spark CAI, Magnum intake manifold with working butterflies, zzapp 60mm tb, magnum header, gutted cat, bosal glasspack, srt axle back, RMVB (Reverse Manual Valve Body), flex-a-lite tranny cooler, and SRT springs.
~ A loss for one, is a win for another ~
meh not necessary, you will have a rough idle but its sweet.
Rally Neon Mod List:
2.5 direct exhaust, PVC CAI, PT clutch, Crane 14, 5point seats & harnesses, 8 point FIA roll cage, AF/X race ecu, Dropzone coilovers, Hotchkis swaybars, Crane valve springs, Autogage 5" tach shiftlite, .020" head shaving, custom long tube header, wilwood 12" Big Brake Kit.
2.5 direct exhaust, PVC CAI, PT clutch, Crane 14, 5point seats & harnesses, 8 point FIA roll cage, AF/X race ecu, Dropzone coilovers, Hotchkis swaybars, Crane valve springs, Autogage 5" tach shiftlite, .020" head shaving, custom long tube header, wilwood 12" Big Brake Kit.
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it will not let me look at it n e thing special i have to do to see it?

2000 Dodge ES ATX
Spark CAI, Magnum intake manifold with working butterflies, zzapp 60mm tb, magnum header, gutted cat, bosal glasspack, srt axle back, RMVB (Reverse Manual Valve Body), flex-a-lite tranny cooler, and SRT springs.
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- tamadrumr88
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thanks that link works a lot better and is quite a bit smaller...

2000 Dodge ES ATX
Spark CAI, Magnum intake manifold with working butterflies, zzapp 60mm tb, magnum header, gutted cat, bosal glasspack, srt axle back, RMVB (Reverse Manual Valve Body), flex-a-lite tranny cooler, and SRT springs.
~ A loss for one, is a win for another ~
That is my competiton car a long time ago (before it was a comp car), it only had a CAI, direct exhaust & the 14 Cam.grambo wrote:baal - I remember your competition car being yellow? is this your daily driver? I could barely hear the cam loping.
Rally Neon Mod List:
2.5 direct exhaust, PVC CAI, PT clutch, Crane 14, 5point seats & harnesses, 8 point FIA roll cage, AF/X race ecu, Dropzone coilovers, Hotchkis swaybars, Crane valve springs, Autogage 5" tach shiftlite, .020" head shaving, custom long tube header, wilwood 12" Big Brake Kit.
2.5 direct exhaust, PVC CAI, PT clutch, Crane 14, 5point seats & harnesses, 8 point FIA roll cage, AF/X race ecu, Dropzone coilovers, Hotchkis swaybars, Crane valve springs, Autogage 5" tach shiftlite, .020" head shaving, custom long tube header, wilwood 12" Big Brake Kit.
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an I love the 14....it is coming this summer. With head work. I should be getting my lt from jet-hot soon. So I can't wait till I get that back.
-Brian
Rest In Peace Brian
February 20, 1985 - August 21, 2012
2004 Black "KNEE YAWN" SRT-4
3" Maxxfab SEE, S2 WGA, Mopar BOV Plate, Fighters CAI, Samco IC Hoses, QW's DF IC, Hotchkis Sways
Soon to come:
Werks rear Strut Bar
2001 Red Neon R/T**Gone**
Rest In Peace Brian
February 20, 1985 - August 21, 2012
2004 Black "KNEE YAWN" SRT-4
3" Maxxfab SEE, S2 WGA, Mopar BOV Plate, Fighters CAI, Samco IC Hoses, QW's DF IC, Hotchkis Sways
Soon to come:
Werks rear Strut Bar
2001 Red Neon R/T**Gone**
the video tama posted was sllywhtboy's from DNO, that was 14 cam, open long tube header.. i cant wait to get my header on =P
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so you need to tune the fuel with a new cam huh?.. good thing im gonna have to tune it when i get my AF/X R
12 Subaru WRX hatch - #notadowngrade
04 Neon - #base2SRT #24NAprojectgoneSRT
03 Subaru Forester 2.5XS - #gfscar #butiown
06 Subaru WRX STi - #traded4hatchback12WRX #gone
98 Neon R/T 2.4L Turbo Coupe - #7yearproject #SRTified #megasquirt
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04 Neon - #base2SRT #24NAprojectgoneSRT
03 Subaru Forester 2.5XS - #gfscar #butiown
06 Subaru WRX STi - #traded4hatchback12WRX #gone
98 Neon R/T 2.4L Turbo Coupe - #7yearproject #SRTified #megasquirt
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