Modular to NON-Modular ????

02SRT-4Swap · Post by **02SRT-4Swap** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:51 pm

question if i got a flywheel and a non-modular clutch would it work in a modular style motor..... like a 2002 sohc motor and would the splines on the tranny be the same or would i have to use a 95 style tranny and are the bellhousings the same for 95 sohc motors as the 2002 sohc motors

thanks....

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:16 pm

ugh one thread down is the same ?....sigh lol

daver · Post by **daver** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:06 am

Maybe try reading before posting E3EsXt02.

The other post is about using a modular clutch setup in a vehicle that was originally non-modular.

This post is about the opposite, putting a non-modular flywheel and clutch setup in a vehicle that was originally modular.

Anyway the answer is yes. You would need a non-modular flywheel, either oem steel or aluminum, as well as the longer bolts to attach it to your crankshaft, and then you would need a non-modular clutch kit, and of course the bolts to attach the pressure plate to your flywheel.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:25 am

tamadrumr88 wrote:its because i found a non-modular alum flywheel and spec stg 2 clutch for a nice price

read his thread it's the same thing....

Thanks....

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:09 am

daver, why dont you re-read my post? its the same exact question that needs to be addressed. the question is concerning what needs to be done/bought if someone wants to put a non-modular flywheel/clutch setup into an originally modular setup

does anyone even make a complete modular clutch kit with an aluminum flywheel??? didnt think so. theres no reason to want to put a modular clutch in a non-modular car anyway

daver · Post by **daver** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:39 pm

Why would I re-read that thread? Do you mean the thread originated by tamadrumr88 entitled: "non-modular to modular clutch conversion kits..." From the subject, and from the originating post I can see that the post isn't about the subject I'm researching so why would I waste time reading it?

From the subject and the initial post in that thread, it is an inquiry about non-modular to modular conversion kits. Aka a flexplate and associated hardware to bolt a modular clutch kit into a vehicle that was originally non-modular.

Mopar sold/sells a Mopar Performance high-torque clutch for the Neon (repackaged PT Clutch), which is modular. It then sells a kit to let you bolt that modular setup into a Neon which originally had a non-modular flywheel and seperate bolt on pressure plate.

This kit is P5007435 should be available from any dealership.

That is the correct answer to the originating post of the thread you keep referring to. If you were looking for the opposite, to put in a non-modular setup to replace a modular one then you should have asked the correct question the first time, or editted your post or title to reflect the new information you were seeking.

Most people read the subjects to posts, and based off that decide whether to read the entire thread or not. If your subject is opposite what they're actually looking for then don't jump on people for not reading your post.

To answer your new questions: Yes there is a modular clutch assembly that uses an aluminum flywheel. Howell sells them, I believe they are badged as Spec units. Also because the modular PT Cruiser setup is a cheap upgrade for the standard Neon clutch, alot of people convert non-modular over to modular.

02SRT-4Swap's car was originally modular, he wants to discard the flexplate and hardware and bolt on a non-modular, 1995 style flywheel. He wanted to know what would be required to do this. The answer is an oem or aftermarket flywheel, the longer flywheel to crankshaft bolts, a clutch kit for a 95 Neon, or 96-99 mexican Neon, and the bolts to attach the pressure plate to the flywheel.

That is the correct answer to 02SRT-4Swap's inquiry.

The reason I responded in the first place is because I am doing the exact same swap (modular to non-modular) and I hate seeing like 9 replies to a post and not a single one actually answering the question or providing any useful information. Such as what happened in the incorrectly titled post you keep referring to.

So how about we all ask the right questions and since we have so much time to waste on these boards actually answer peoples questions in our responses huh?

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:40 pm

daver wrote:Why would I re-read that thread? Do you mean the thread originated by tamadrumr88 entitled: "non-modular to modular clutch conversion kits..." From the subject, and from the originating post I can see that the post isn't about the subject I'm researching so why would I waste time reading it?

From the subject and the initial post in that thread, it is an inquiry about non-modular to modular conversion kits. Aka a flexplate and associated hardware to bolt a modular clutch kit into a vehicle that was originally non-modular.

Mopar sold/sells a Mopar Performance high-torque clutch for the Neon (repackaged PT Clutch), which is modular. It then sells a kit to let you bolt that modular setup into a Neon which originally had a non-modular flywheel and seperate bolt on pressure plate.

This kit is P5007435 should be available from any dealership.

That is the correct answer to the originating post of the thread you keep referring to. If you were looking for the opposite, to put in a non-modular setup to replace a modular one then you should have asked the correct question the first time, or editted your post or title to reflect the new information you were seeking.

Most people read the subjects to posts, and based off that decide whether to read the entire thread or not. If your subject is opposite what they're actually looking for then don't jump on people for not reading your post.

To answer your new questions: Yes there is a modular clutch assembly that uses an aluminum flywheel. Howell sells them, I believe they are badged as Spec units. Also because the modular PT Cruiser setup is a cheap upgrade for the standard Neon clutch, alot of people convert non-modular over to modular.

02SRT-4Swap's car was originally modular, he wants to discard the flexplate and hardware and bolt on a non-modular, 1995 style flywheel. He wanted to know what would be required to do this. The answer is an oem or aftermarket flywheel, the longer flywheel to crankshaft bolts, a clutch kit for a 95 Neon, or 96-99 mexican Neon, and the bolts to attach the pressure plate to the flywheel.

That is the correct answer to 02SRT-4Swap's inquiry.

The reason I responded in the first place is because I am doing the exact same swap (modular to non-modular) and I hate seeing like 9 replies to a post and not a single one actually answering the question or providing any useful information. Such as what happened in the incorrectly titled post you keep referring to.

So how about we all ask the right questions and since we have so much time to waste on these boards actually answer peoples questions in our responses huh?

Nicely put.

You guys need to lay off....you talked more about spoilers and badging in tama's thread than clutch assemblies....plus, besides everything daver said, tama's question was simply WHERE to get what he needed....not an application question.

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:48 pm

There is no such thing as a modular engine or a non modular engine

The flex plate that comes standard on all 2nd gens is so the factory could slap either an MTX or ATX on demand without having to change the plate for a flywheel. All they had to do from that point was attach either a TC or a Modular

I'm pretty sure all you have to do to convert to a non-modular is take off the flexplate attach a flywheel, clutch disc and pressure plate. 95-2005 MTX's are all basically interchangeable and the same.

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:14 pm

if its that easy why isnt it a very common mod?

i mean that flexplate is freaking huge i think an aluminium flywheel would be a awesome.

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:32 pm

Baal wrote:if its that easy why isnt it a very common mod?

i mean that flexplate is freaking huge i think an aluminium flywheel would be a awesome.

It's more difficult to put in a Non-modular than a modular because everything has to be just lined up so, so. It's not a common mod either because most Neon guys know how to even get their transaxles out of the car

Let alone change a clutch or a non-modular conversion

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:53 pm

lined up? what do you mean, a non-modular is a totally superior setup.

You dont have to change everything if you destroy the clutch plate, and a light flywheel is one of the best mods a car can have, the stock flexplate is huge and heavy.

soul_sword34 · Post by **soul_sword34** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:33 pm

Baal wrote:lined up? what do you mean, a non-modular is a totally superior setup.

You dont have to change everything if you destroy the clutch plate, and a light flywheel is one of the best mods a car can have, the stock flexplate is huge and heavy.

never said anything bad about non modular did I? All I said is that it is not as easy as a modular

Baal · Post by **Baal** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:49 pm

soul_sword34 wrote:
Baal wrote:lined up? what do you mean, a non-modular is a totally superior setup.

You dont have to change everything if you destroy the clutch plate, and a light flywheel is one of the best mods a car can have, the stock flexplate is huge and heavy.
never said anything bad about non modular did I? All I said is that it is not as easy as a modular

i know you didnt basht he non modular, i just wanted to know what do you mean with lined up.

SGT BRAD · Post by **SGT BRAD** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:30 pm

ummm...howell sells a luk/spec combo that is modular with an aluminum flywheel. i am curious as to whether there is an advantage to swapping out a modular to non-modular vs. changing to the luk/spec setup. i am trying to lighten everything up and was curious about the difficulty with swapping to a non-mod and how everything would work. i've not torn into a neon trans so i've never compared a non-mod clutch to a mod clutch. if anyone has clarity as to exactly what is required for a swap i'd certainly be interested. otherwise i believe i'll just go with the spec/luk combo.

00element10 · Post by **00element10** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:41 am

sorry to revive a dead post but what's the measurements on the bolts needed to go from modular to non modular? and how many of each?

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maybe we should try reading.