HELP ME!!!! I NEED CAR HELP!

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:44 pm

Hey guys, been having some problems as of last night. Was on the dyno and i noticed that the breather was spewing out air like a mofo. I noticed that the air was actually a fine mist of oil and before i left the dyno i checked the oil. The level was good, but after i got home i checked it again and it was showing below the low mark. I did some reading on the forums and they said it could be attributed to the pcv system or perhaps the valve cover gasket or spark plug seals.

I installed the pcv with a catch can system, installed a new valve cover gasket, new spark plug gaskets and new grommets for the valve cover. I started her up and the breather on teh back of the valve cover was still shooting out the fine mist of oil. At the suggestion of Turbo2001RT i did a compression test and got readings of 105/115/110/165psi, what the heck is causing such a high rating in the 4th cylinder?

THe little book that came with the tester said it was most likely due to a carbon buildup, but Turbo2001RT thinks it's probably a stuck valve.

Does anyone have anymore advice, or ideas, or perhaps actually knows the answer to my dilemma?

Thanks!! Oh, and it should be noted this is for a 2001 Neon.

AND: OH! i forgot to mention, when i took the valve cover off i noticed something hard near one of hte springs, it appeared to be something like carbon, as it was black and a small piece broke off and the main piece appeared to be black all the way through. This piece was sitting near the lower (front of the car) right of the head.

minnimert · Post by **minnimert** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:53 pm

The 4th number seems to be normal. The others are low. When I checked mine before the rebuild it was 180ish.
The oil mist is a sign of blow by. With the low compression numbers you got, I would say your rings are shot.

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:03 pm

mine did the same thing before i melted #3 piston! at the time i blew the motor, oil was pouring out of the air filter on the back of the valve cover. good luck!

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:43 am

minnimert wrote:The 4th number seems to be normal. The others are low. When I checked mine before the rebuild it was 180ish.
The oil mist is a sign of blow by. With the low compression numbers you got, I would say your rings are shot.

Time for a new bottom end buddy.....which is either

, or

.....depending on how you look at it.

grindpunk16 · Post by **grindpunk16** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:00 am

time to pull head

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:18 am

grindpunk16 wrote:time to pull head

Agreed...but I am wondering, what would you look for once the head is off? Scoring on the cylinder walls? Anything else that would help before you had to take the whole thing apart?

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:39 am

well guys, if my problem is indeed piston rings i will unfortunately be parting out/selling this car. I just purchased a 91 Chevy Caprice Classic and for now it's running pretty good. Hopefully that'll let me get to work and school safely and reliably for awhile.

kirktalife · Post by **kirktalife** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:49 am

when and if ur partin er out give me a pm as soon as ya know

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:54 am

roger dodger.

U want me to part out the Caprice?

dawm · Post by **dawm** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:21 am

i told you not to turn the boost up.. but nooo... dibs on the hood (if shipping = cheap)

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:24 am

DIBS ON THE HEAD!

At the same time, if reliability was your goal, why did you mod/turbo the neon? Just board and looking for a project?!?

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:55 am

dibs on rmvb. Man we are like scavengers.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:07 am

^^thats true we are, but how else would we get good deals and most importantly, DIBS?

so speaking of dibs, I call dibs on the rt headlights!!!

and that sucks if you have to part it out, Id rather see you stick around w/ your neon. plus, you kept it an ATX (Even if you do have the rmvb)

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:27 pm

if you have a metal tube that replaced the bellows tube....i'll take it with the two couplers and screw rings

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:43 pm

#1 on fuel rail cover

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:20 pm

First dibs on the exhaust adapter plate, complete fuel line kit, O2 housing, MBC, and maybe the gauges.....

nodestiny · Post by **nodestiny** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:41 pm

Holy crap... Not even selling anything officialy and you have everything sold

Gees...

Let us know how it goes though. Definatly dont want to loose a good member like yourself!

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:52 pm

lol he can part his car out and make the money it's worth....and then sell the car and get what he can haha....

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:06 pm

So true. All that stuff is for my bro though, not me. Still, pretty funny that it's not even for sure for sale, and we all pounce like lions on his car parts. And yeah, I too would rather see you fix that car than part it out and sell it....it would be worth it. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

012tone · Post by **012tone** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:22 pm

well if anybody finds out that they cant get some thing they claimed already i want the oil lines, the hotside pipe, injectors, fuel system and the plate. Cuz if its good enought for one turbo atx, it good enough for mine

Kevin_GP · Post by **Kevin_GP** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:09 pm

Well, im not going to turn up the boost untill I build the block, that sucks though man.

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:11 am

well...at 5 psi i was only at 158whp/156tq, so at 10 i shoulda been save torque wise. As far as detonation i never heard it as far as i could tell, but apparently it was there.

As far as parting out, i think i might sell the car for whatever i still owe on it which is $4000, OR...of course part it out.

This F@#$@#% blows!

Lemme post up a mod list and see what u guys would want.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:24 am

you could pick up a motor for i bet less than 500 and keep the atx beast alive

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:25 am

hmm...true..but who's gonna swap it for me? I work and go to school full time..

Usually my only free days are Sunday

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:31 am

i bet there is guys on neon.org....the rare and nice guys that would probably help you...

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:36 am

downpayment on a used srt loan! there are lots of srts going for high 13s, low 14s right now if you look enough on srtforums

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:38 am

i don't want an SRT...ok, i lied, i really do, but the payment and insurance would be more than i want to pay, AND..i need a car that i wouldn't drive like a maniac.

But, best of all, i want to Dub out my Caprice...

Just kidding.

Oh, and my for sale/part list is out, go scavenge it!

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:45 am

rice_eater wrote:downpayment on a used srt loan! there are lots of srts going for high 13s, low 14s right now if you look enough on srtforums

they've been goin around that much at dealers around here

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:33 am

are you actually gonna look into what caused you to blow your piston rings? it could have been just a bad tune...if you open it up and it all melted on you i'd be pissed and take it back to the shop that set it up; i knew you wouldnt get enough fuel with just a 1:1 regulator

LCPLPunk · Post by **LCPLPunk** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:17 am

nope..i'm not gonna pay moeny to have somebody open it up..not unless it's gonna get fixed.