HARD ROCK FANS!!! and tothers...ENTER!!!!!

Steaks · Post by **Steaks** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:06 am

So I am watching the ROck and Roll Hall of Fame show and METALLICA IS PLAYING IRONMAN!!!!

Dude I feel Iron Man has to be the definition of HARD ROCK! please discuss..........

I am a huge fan of hard rock. bascially the harder the better. If you looked in my CD player in my car it has mostly hard rock set at like 75% volume.

What would you think is the definition of HARD ROCK. Nothing pansy, like I said I like a lot of hard rock even older hard rock. Just wondering what other people think.

ilpadrino · Post by **ilpadrino** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:18 am

That wasn't live was it? Listening to the Stern show the other day, I heard a clip of Metallica playing it. Stern asked, "Why doesn't Ozzy just play if he's there?" I agree. What the hell!

I don't care though. I fuckin' love Metallica (the first 5 albums at least). And yes, Iron Man is the definitive hard rock song. But there are others too. I don't really like AC/DC but they have a couple of definitive hard rock songs.

Hard rock is a tough category. What defines or determines "hard" from regular rock?

Regardless, classic [hard] rock is awesome. I can go on and on but i'm supposed to be studying for my last midterm tomorrow (technically today). I'll be back.

Steaks · Post by **Steaks** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:33 am

I forgot about AC/DC yeah they have a few good ones too. I have been a rock fan since my friend indroduced me to Metallica in freshman year of High School. man I am old......

refect · Post by **refect** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:19 am

coldplay is my definition of hard rock

hahahahahahahahaha just playin

3Bar_Mopar · Post by **3Bar_Mopar** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:30 pm

Rock = bands like Aerosmith or The Stones

Hard Rock = bands like Guns N Roses or new Metallica

Metal = bands like (pre-black album) Metallica or Pantera

Thrash Metal = bands like Anthrax, Peace Sells...era Megadeth or Slayer

Grind = bands like Cannibal Corpse or Nile

Death Metal = bands like Hate Eternal and Death

Extreme Metal = bands like Pig Destroyer, Ed Gein or Strapping Young Lad

Power Metal = bands like Dragon Force, Iced Earth or Maiden

Doom = bands like Sunno))), Earth and Black Sabbath

Hardcore = bands like Fugazi and Hatebreed

Emo Core = bands like Hawthorne Heights, From Autumn To Ashes and Atreyu

DannyBoy · Post by **DannyBoy** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:00 pm

I can't stand Metallica anymore, why cant they go back to 1988 and make good albums like Ride the lightning again.

Steaks · Post by **Steaks** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:49 pm

DannyBoy wrote:I can't stand Metallica anymore, why cant they go back to 1988 and make good albums like Ride the lightning again.

Because Chuk Noris rold them not to and what Chuck Noris says is law!

ilpadrino · Post by **ilpadrino** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:13 pm

Anthrax baby! I love anthrax! Good job, 3bar on that list! Although again, the difference between hard rock and rock is blurred. Plus, if you're gonna make a distinction between hard rock and [heavy] metal, it's even blurrier.

But, with all that said, rock is rock. I like heavy metal, hard, alt., whatever.

I love it on Sirius because I have all those stations set to my first set list. Plus, when my favorite bands are gonna be played, I'm notified of it.

OB · Post by OB » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:53 pm

dont forget metalcore, like embrace the end and shit (amazing)

ps. fugazi and hatebreed are far from good examples of hc. try killing the dream, hoods, terror, agnostic front, shit like that.

music+cars=life

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:52 pm

i heard the clip of metallica playing iron man on opie and anthony. it was amazing.

i think the reason why metallica was playing it instead of sabbeth is because it was a tribute to sabbeth. and it took them fucking long enough to put sabbeth in the hall of fame.

Kevin_GP · Post by **Kevin_GP** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:18 pm

ps. fugazi and hatebreed are far from good examples of hc. try killing the dream, hoods, terror, agnostic front, shit like that.

I agree.

ilpadrino · Post by **ilpadrino** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:24 pm

The only reason why it took this long to get Sabbath into the HOF is because Ozzy has always boycotted it. He has made it explicity clear that he wants nothing to do with the rock and roll hall of fame. In the old clips they played of him during the Stern show, he used to say it was basically the antithesis of what rock and roll was all about.

So fast forward to present day; Stern asks him why now all of a sudden. And he basically said he gave up lol ('cause so many people wanted him and the rest of the band in there).

3Bar_Mopar · Post by **3Bar_Mopar** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:05 am

orangeblastsxt wrote:
ps. fugazi and hatebreed are far from good examples of hc. try killing the dream, hoods, terror, agnostic front, shit like that.

Well, I was giving popular examples everyone might know....even people not into hardcore....I agree though.

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:06 am

hmm... what is NIN considered? Genere wise?

3Bar_Mopar · Post by **3Bar_Mopar** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:41 am

lilolneon wrote:hmm... what is NIN considered? Genere wise?

I think people always considered them "industrial", but industrial muisc to me means bands like Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, Front Line Assembly, Project Pitchfork, and some early Ministry.

NIN is more of a catchier, hookier variant of industrial music.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:58 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:dont forget metalcore, like embrace the end and shit (amazing)

ps. fugazi and hatebreed are far from good examples of hc. try killing the dream, hoods, terror, agnostic front, shit like that.

music+cars=life

WTF?! Fugazi was like the first hardcore band ever, and they were straight edge. I really have been diggin on some Stretch Arm Strong however, and listening to As I Lay Dying in my 15 passenger van with my band when we roll through the nice parts of NoVA is awesome!@

OB · Post by OB » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:13 am

invujerry wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:dont forget metalcore, like embrace the end and shit (amazing)

ps. fugazi and hatebreed are far from good examples of hc. try killing the dream, hoods, terror, agnostic front, shit like that.

music+cars=life
WTF?! Fugazi was like the first hardcore band ever, and they were straight edge. I really have been diggin on some Stretch Arm Strong however, and listening to As I Lay Dying in my 15 passenger van with my band when we roll through the nice parts of NoVA is awesome!@

I dont know about that, but ive been into this shit for awhile and ive never met one single person who cited fugazi as an influential hardcore band. bands that i know that started the movement were agnostic front, sick of it all, gorilla biscuits, shit like that. old school NYHC.

DannyBoy · Post by **DannyBoy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:29 am

Steaks wrote:
DannyBoy wrote:I can't stand Metallica anymore, why cant they go back to 1988 and make good albums like Ride the lightning again.

Because Chuk Noris rold them not to and what Chuck Noris says is law!

Never spell Chuck Norris' name incorrectly again.

Or else.....

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:21 am

Chuck Norris had a Cartoon O_O Called Chuck Norris Commandos...

Looked kinda like G.I. Joe... saw it the other day on Cartoon Network at like 4am...

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:00 pm

I have an Announcement

Fugazi= Introduction to Emocore
Previous Band....Minor Threat=Strait Edge Punk

Atreyu And From Autumn to Ashes is concidered Hardcore
Hawthorne Hights is concidered GAY

Metal Core......Killswitch Engage

OB is right in IMO I have never herd Fugazi concidered HC Hatebreed yeah even though they suck But Fugazi.....I dont think so

Ian MacKaye is probably the most Emo singer I have ever herd

Just listen to his Lyrics

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:01 pm

Emo pwns.

OB · Post by OB » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:00 pm

03sxt wrote:Emo pwns.