Big Brake Kit installed

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Big Brake Kit installed

Post by Baal » Wed May 03, 2006 4:59 am

Well finally its in, we ran into a lot of trouble because the 16" wheels didnt clear the calipers, so we had to elongate the drill holes on the knuckles and the calipers moved under strong braking, so we had to put welding in the holes and in some points to strenghten the knuckle, so we tried to put the calipers the closest tot he center possible before interfering with the disks and its done, the wheels clear now.

The braking is nice but its veeery easy to lock the brakes :)

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Basically to install this whithout SRT-4 knuckles, you have to machine the stock ones, taking the "ears" off, also the things where the original holes were, and machine off the surface to even it out and you bolt the adapter + caliper there, presto!, big brake kit.
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Post by kirktalife » Wed May 03, 2006 7:09 am

crazy awsome man, looks beautiful
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 8:50 am

mmmmmhm looks pretty i just got a chubby hahaha hey dude i wanna talk to youp about your LT header... check your pms
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Post by marakka » Wed May 03, 2006 11:48 am

Hmmm...... what was cost on that? And do you think 17's would clear?
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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 3:29 pm

17's would look killer. The brake kit is TCE isn't it?
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 3:30 pm

wilwood.. says in his sig ;) lol
bad01neon wrote: obviously the 10 year old consented, so its ok lol :lol:

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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 3:34 pm

Doh, shoulda' been more specific, TCE Performance Products out of Tempe, AZ is a Wilwood dealer that was one of the first to have BBK's for SRT-4's....
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 3:39 pm

O just cuz hes mexican he buys his crappy from AZ and not CALI!?!?! :P jkz ..lol
bad01neon wrote: obviously the 10 year old consented, so its ok lol :lol:

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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 3:42 pm

They are prolly cheaper south of the border anyway....
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 3:44 pm

idk about that a 16g car cost almost an extra 2 grand down there.. well what i saw in the paper lol
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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 3:47 pm

Prolly in Scottsdale. haha
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 3:52 pm

ugh scottsdale..the bitxhes and custom homes are awesome.. get laid easy by hawt chicks and tons of work..lol
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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 4:08 pm

Scottsdale = easy rich chicks = yup. :roll: WE almost bought a house there where they are doing all that new construction on the other side of the freeway from the airport. Place is WAY overpriced for the square footage. No more :hijacked:

Baal = the brakes look BADASSS!!!!! we want pics of teh whole car now dude.
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 5:58 pm

thats becuase you dinit build your own(it would also offered a immeadite return equity wise)... it would be hard though becuase your in cali but scottsdale is the best place to build your own...cheeeeeeeeep start up money as in taxes buying the land and permits and such

and i second the pic request
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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 6:04 pm

Bump for more pics baal


dine = It would be a tough deal from Cali. It was tough having my place built here. As it stands we are purchasing houses at one per year around AZ. Once we have enough equity in the little ones around the state, we will most likely build one somewhere near Scottsdale. BTW, AZ has the cleanest freeways in the world and my gramma and grampa are buried in the Superstition Mountains. (Indian burial ritual performed by me, a friend of mine is Indian and taped the chants for me so I could do it right with all the herbs and stuff. He gave me some creepy-ass leather pouch full of unmentionables too...)
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Post by dinetuner » Wed May 03, 2006 6:19 pm

wow way cool you must either be rich.. or you are renting your houses out.. which one is it? lol and how did you do it get incorparated or LLC .. or a property manager.. lets take this to the picture post..lol
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Post by grambo » Wed May 03, 2006 6:31 pm

nah. I am by NO means rich. I cashed out ALL of my retirement, my kids college $, and my wife's retirement to buy the houses and I got DAMN lucky cuz real estate just keeps climbing. I was getting killed with the 401k's and all that BS. I had to do something or I'd be eating dog food when I retire and my kid would be working in an ice cream truck cuz he had no future.
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Post by Baal » Wed May 03, 2006 10:42 pm

ill take pics tomorrow :)
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Post by scneonchic » Thu May 04, 2006 12:28 pm

Looks good, from what i can see in the one pic. You do have the rears also right?

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Post by lilolneon » Thu May 04, 2006 2:58 pm

think this will work w/ my 14" Steelies? lol j/k! looks nice.
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Post by Diablo0 » Sat May 06, 2006 12:13 pm

Lookin damn sweeet man! Lookin really really really good! Now give them to me! :lol: Would you say it'd probably would have been easier to pickup some SRT knuckles if you could get them for under $75?
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Post by Baal » Tue May 09, 2006 1:38 am

I would definitely go for the srt4 knukles and mod the steering for the knukles to fit, its way easier but i couldnt find ones and the stealerships wanted way too much for them.


BTW on an update, the brake balance with rear drums is pathetic HORRIBLE and very dangerous, if someone is planing to do this get a brake balance valve and rear disks.
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Post by marakka » Tue May 09, 2006 1:56 am

Diablo.... you've told me you had to modify the knuckles before. But what exactly do you have to modify? I REALLY need to do something about these brakes and I'm worried that the MPx stuff I ordered won't solve it.
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Post by Baal » Tue May 09, 2006 1:54 pm

marakka wrote:Diablo.... you've told me you had to modify the knuckles before. But what exactly do you have to modify? I REALLY need to do something about these brakes and I'm worried that the MPx stuff I ordered won't solve it.
for this BBK ?
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Post by 03sxt » Tue May 09, 2006 4:36 pm

Mmmm... Dem's are some huge brakes! :shock: :thumbup:

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Post by Diablo0 » Wed May 10, 2006 2:47 pm

marakka wrote:Diablo.... you've told me you had to modify the knuckles before. But what exactly do you have to modify? I REALLY need to do something about these brakes and I'm worried that the MPx stuff I ordered won't solve it.
The hole in the steering arm for the tie rod has to be welded up and redrilled maybe 1/4" farther away so you'll have enough toe adjustability to get it back to 0 if thats what you want it as. With where the holes are now on the SRT knuckles the neon rack is a tad longer than the SRT rack and the Neon rack's tie rods don't have enough adjustability to take it down to 0 toe. You can try to cut some of the threading off the tie rod ends on the Neon rack but once you cut you can't exactly put it back. Brad (refect) tried to do this but ended up just swapping racks since it became more of a pain to try and cut some off, have it aligned to find it still wasn't enough, cut more, take it back... if you just swap the rack out it's a direct bolt up with no cutting but the rack isn't fast and easy to pull since you have to drop the K-Frame and whatnot to get to it. It's strait forward but not like installing a CAI or something like that, you have to sorta dig to get it out.
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Post by Baal » Thu May 11, 2006 1:29 am

seems like a hassle, id racher machine the shit out of the stock knukles ;)
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Post by Diablo0 » Thu May 11, 2006 1:31 am

:lol: No access to a machine shop I could probably cut the rack down faster haha
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Post by marakka » Thu May 11, 2006 1:33 pm

And SRT tie rods wouldn't fit the neon rack? I wonder where the difference is. Whats the ratio and yada yada. If the ratios on the racks are the same I'd venture a guess that the tie rods are where the difference is. I dunno. Wish I had easy access to parts to go look at stuff and compare.
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Post by Diablo0 » Thu May 11, 2006 2:14 pm

Already checked that... the SRT and Neon tie rods are identical ;-) The difference is either in the steering rods or the thread length that the tie rods screw onto.
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