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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 8:19 pm

Question for you... Did you notice a drop in fuel mileage due to the installation of your K and N intake? I just put mine in and I can tell my mileage is down over just two days. I imagine the car is still in the "learning" process, but how much of a loss should I expect if any?

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Post by Nick Drake » Tue May 16, 2006 8:38 pm

you should be getting better mileage
kc2002acr wrote:because if I was racing you at a 60 roll, I would have been in second for a second till I hit 3rd, then I would have called you on my cell phone and asked you if my taillights were all working. :rofl: ;) :D

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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 8:41 pm

That is what I thought.... Perhaps it is my ignition system.... I just dropped in new Autolite Plugs gapped at about .038 and changed the oil...

Car has about 21,000, wires bad?

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Post by Nick Drake » Tue May 16, 2006 8:43 pm

does it idle roughly?
kc2002acr wrote:because if I was racing you at a 60 roll, I would have been in second for a second till I hit 3rd, then I would have called you on my cell phone and asked you if my taillights were all working. :rofl: ;) :D

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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 8:45 pm

I think so.... But I think I am picky!?
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Post by lilolneon » Tue May 16, 2006 8:50 pm

get some Magnecore or MSD plugwires, should help clear rough idle :-D
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 8:51 pm

Wires drop that fast?
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Post by lilolneon » Tue May 16, 2006 8:57 pm

No, but the 8.5mm wires will give a more stable electrical current thru the wires. My stock wires were fine, but i replaced them with Magnecores, and my car idles so smooth you cant tell its on cept for the exhaust and intake.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 8:58 pm

That would be awesome. What plugs do you run and gap? Running stock coil?

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Post by lilolneon » Tue May 16, 2006 8:59 pm

NGK V-Powers Gapped at .035
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:04 pm

Well the car is going to the dealer tomorrow so I will have them check on the idle. It was going in for leaky spark plug tubes....

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Post by racer12306 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:09 pm

your wires should be good for 60000. mine were shot after 35000. i replaced them with normal wires, no name wires my dad got for $30 off the internet. car idles great. remember you can use wires from any sohc 2.0, 95 to 05.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:11 pm

Maybe the dealer will replace them, otherwise I will order up some wires tomorrow night!

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Post by racer12306 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:19 pm

they will more than likely charge you because they are maintenance items. but i think someone here did say the dealer replaced them under warrenty one time.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:24 pm

I will try not to pay, they can do it for free or I can do it....
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Post by lilolneon » Tue May 16, 2006 9:28 pm

Id just get some 8.5mm wires. i got my magnecores from a guy here for $40 shipped. They was blue and fit my underhood theme well. :-D
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:30 pm

Okey dokey. Think the Autolites at .038 are causing me troubles?

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Post by lilolneon » Tue May 16, 2006 9:34 pm

Doubt it someone else on here uses Autolites. He ahsnt had any probs i dont think. IT could be the small leak you have in the tube, or it could be you could use some new plug wires.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 9:36 pm

Okay, I will report back after tomorrow's dealer visit!

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Post by Nick Drake » Tue May 16, 2006 10:53 pm

the stock plug gap's .033-.038 so you're at the high end of the spectrum if autolites are the same.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 11:02 pm

Alright, if the dealer doesn't change it, I will drop to .035 and split the difference.
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Post by racer12306 » Tue May 16, 2006 11:09 pm

as long as its within a few thousands im sure its fine. a plug doesnt hold its gap for the entire time its in the engine. iirc ive pulled out plugs that were about .042
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 11:13 pm

I pulled the old plugs and they were .045...

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Post by racer12306 » Tue May 16, 2006 11:14 pm

.038 is better than .045 so you are already in the plus
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Tue May 16, 2006 11:43 pm

True that, maybe the car is relearning the proper gap! Doesn't that take like 100 miles or so...

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Post by racer12306 » Wed May 17, 2006 8:31 am

relearning the proper gap. how would the computer even know what the gap is. all the spark wants to do is get to the other side and i dont believe the computer has anyway to know how far it is to the other side.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Wed May 17, 2006 8:48 am

Not saying that, poor wording on my part.... Basically when a car learns a new mod, well a gap is going to change the combustion of the gasoline and therefore 02 readings. I bet it takes a few miles for the car to average out to the new change.

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Post by EmersonHart13 » Wed May 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Alrighty... Dealer called and said the replaced the tubes and the gasket and the idle is better because of that.... Aka no more oil in the cylinders. I will post another update tonight once I go pick it up!

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Post by racer12306 » Wed May 17, 2006 5:02 pm

that might have also been the cause for poor gas mileage.
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Post by EmersonHart13 » Wed May 17, 2006 5:25 pm

I would agree! I did not realize that the oil would be leaking in as well... I am probably going to pick up a set of wires anway... eBay here I come!

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